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I don't actually know any of you. All I can go on is by what you post.


So me replying with something you don't agree with means I have an axe to grind. I guess screw my free speech, as long as you get your free speech.

Nobody is taking away your free speech bro. Your post wasn't edited or deleted. But statements like that, which are not true, is where I see the axe to grind.

Of course, not all Republicans are Racist and Bigoted. John Huntsman is a fine Republican. But let's not kid ourselves. Ever since Obama became President The Right has gone through a huge shift towards a more racist and bigoted rhetoric. The level of outright Obstructionism has been disgusting. Just look at the Supreme Court Nomination. They don't even want to do their Constitutional duty and want to wait till we get our next President. Saying the People should have a voice in it. Well, guess what? Obama was elected Twice so the People have spoken. He get's to nominate and they get to at least openly vet him. Not all Republicans are RepubliKKKans and not all Democrats are Dumocrats. So don't try and point to my use of the word RepubliKKKan as a sign of bigotry. I am referring to a certain section of them.
 
It's beginning to seem as though "Democratic Socialism" is willing to shut down the speech of those who speak against it............ at least the Bernie following part of it is.

So should all those people who bravely stood up to the Racism and Bigotry in the 60's not have marched and protested? Nobody shut down Trumps freedom to speech except for Trump. Contrary to what he said, he cancelled the rally. Not Police. And it wasn't "Bernie's People". It was people from many different groups who came together to protest Trumps hate speech. Yes there were Bernie Supporters among them but to try and blame Bernie is dishonest.
 
. The level of outright Obstructionism has been disgusting.


I know thats right,,and it aint over,,far from it.
 
I am being a very good boy,,,Hammy is being mean to me,,,will you spank him with a Bernie Sanders poster. Yehaaaaaaaaa
Okay ill take the 1st spanking Hammy. Go ahead Rose...Yehaaaaaaaaa
Just messen wit ya Bro.having a little fun to get things back down to chill.

It's all good. I am not trying to be mean to you. I will take the first spanking.
 
:smoke1: nope i called shotgun,,,Yehaaaaaaaaa
 
So should all those people who bravely stood up to the Racism and Bigotry in the 60's not have marched and protested? Nobody shut down Trumps freedom to speech except for Trump. Contrary to what he said, he cancelled the rally. Not Police. And it wasn't "Bernie's People". It was people from many different groups who came together to protest Trumps hate speech. Yes there were Bernie Supporters among them but to try and blame Bernie is dishonest.



All the while Hillary is loving it........... serves her well......... she will soon be calling the Bernie peeps home........ and it'll appear she has been on the high road all the while........ in reality she is happy letting the Bernie peeps do her dirty work with a few extras thrown in to make sure things stay stirred up so the media can drive the story her/their way to the sheep....... I mean they do need the Bernie peeps to vote Hillary......... Hate the hell out of Trump is the game plan for the sheep.
 
So should all those people who bravely stood up to the Racism and Bigotry in the 60's not have marched and protested? Nobody shut down Trumps freedom to speech except for Trump. Contrary to what he said, he cancelled the rally. Not Police. And it wasn't "Bernie's People". It was people from many different groups who came together to protest Trumps hate speech. Yes there were Bernie Supporters among them but to try and blame Bernie is dishonest.

Hamster speaks the truth. from ALL my news sources. lol
 
Hey Hammy......... you got a retirement plan from work........ has it gone up in value?

everybody that has one owns those evil profit centers called corporations....... most peeps own it as an investment to go up in value because they make money toward retirement ....... isn't Bernie's plan to take that money and use it to pay for free college......... at the cost of the peeps who want to retire...... or is Bernie gonna pull money out of thin air......... cause I do'nt expect the Chinese to believe him when he tells them he'll pay them back..... not with all the other crap promised.
 
Hey Hammy......... you got a retirement plan from work........ has it gone up in value?

everybody that has one owns those evil profit centers called corporations....... most peeps own it as an investment to go up in value because they make money toward retirement ....... isn't Bernie's plan to take that money and use it to pay for free college......... at the cost of the peeps who want to retire...... or is Bernie gonna pull money out of thin air......... cause I do expect the Chinese to believe him when he tells them hell pay them back.

Once again I am not sure where you get your info.

Bernie's plans are online for all to see.

In a highly competitive global economy, we need the best-educated workforce in the world. It is insane and counter-productive to the best interests of our country and our future, that hundreds of thousands of bright young people cannot afford to go to college, and that millions of others leave school with a mountain of debt that burdens them for decades. That shortsighted path to the future must end.

As President, Bernie Sanders will fight to make sure that every American who studies hard in school can go to college regardless of how much money their parents make and without going deeply into debt.

HERE ARE THE SIX STEPS THAT BERNIE WILL TAKE AS PRESIDENT TO MAKE COLLEGE DEBT FREE:


1MAKE TUITION FREE AT PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
This is not a radical idea. Last year, Germany eliminated tuition because they believed that charging students $1,300 per year was discouraging Germans from going to college. Next year, Chile will do the same. Finland, Norway, Sweden and many other countries around the world also offer free college to all of their citizens. If other countries can take this action, so can the United States of America.

In fact, it’s what many of our colleges and universities used to do. The University of California system offered free tuition at its schools until the 1980s. In 1965, average tuition at a four-year public university was just $243 and many of the best colleges – including the City University of New York – did not charge any tuition at all. The Sanders plan would make tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout the country.

2STOP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM MAKING A PROFIT ON STUDENT LOANS.
Over the next decade, it has been estimated that the federal government will make a profit of over $110 billion on student loan programs. This is morally wrong and it is bad economics. As President, Sen. Sanders will prevent the federal government from profiteering on the backs of college students and use this money instead to significantly lower student loan interest rates.

3SUBSTANTIALLY CUT STUDENT LOAN INTEREST RATES.
Under the Sanders plan, the formula for setting student loan interest rates would go back to where it was in 2006. If this plan were in effect today, interest rates on undergraduate loans would drop from 4.29% to just 2.37%.

4ALLOW AMERICANS TO REFINANCE STUDENT LOANS AT TODAY’S LOW INTEREST RATES.
It makes no sense that you can get an auto loan today with an interest rate of 2.5%, but millions of college graduates are forced to pay interest rates of 5-7% or more for decades. Under the Sanders plan, Americans would be able to refinance their student loans at today’s low interest rates.

5ALLOW STUDENTS TO USE NEED-BASED FINANCIAL AID AND WORK STUDY PROGRAMS TO MAKE COLLEGE DEBT FREE.
The Sanders plan would require public colleges and universities to meet 100% of the financial needs of the lowest-income students. Low-income students would be able to use federal, state and college financial aid to cover room and board, books and living expenses. And Sanders would more than triple the federal work study program to build valuable career experience that will help them after they graduate.

6FULLY PAID FOR BY IMPOSING A TAX ON WALL STREET SPECULATORS.
The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. More than 1,000 economists have endorsed a tax on Wall Street speculation and today some 40 countries throughout the world have imposed a similar tax including Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, and China. If the taxpayers of this country could bailout Wall Street in 2008, we can make public colleges and universities tuition free and debt free throughout the country.
 
You don't think those corporations will leave? and move the jobs to friendly countries..........hammy
 
Once again I am not sure where you get your info.

Bernie's plans are online for all to see.

In a highly competitive global economy, we need the best-educated workforce in the world. It is insane and counter-productive to the best interests of our country and our future, that hundreds of thousands of bright young people cannot afford to go to college, and that millions of others leave school with a mountain of debt that burdens them for decades. That shortsighted path to the future must end.

As President, Bernie Sanders will fight to make sure that every American who studies hard in school can go to college regardless of how much money their parents make and without going deeply into debt.

HERE ARE THE SIX STEPS THAT BERNIE WILL TAKE AS PRESIDENT TO MAKE COLLEGE DEBT FREE:


1MAKE TUITION FREE AT PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
This is not a radical idea. Last year, Germany eliminated tuition because they believed that charging students $1,300 per year was discouraging Germans from going to college. Next year, Chile will do the same. Finland, Norway, Sweden and many other countries around the world also offer free college to all of their citizens. If other countries can take this action, so can the United States of America.

In fact, it’s what many of our colleges and universities used to do. The University of California system offered free tuition at its schools until the 1980s. In 1965, average tuition at a four-year public university was just $243 and many of the best colleges – including the City University of New York – did not charge any tuition at all. The Sanders plan would make tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout the country.

2STOP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM MAKING A PROFIT ON STUDENT LOANS.
Over the next decade, it has been estimated that the federal government will make a profit of over $110 billion on student loan programs. This is morally wrong and it is bad economics. As President, Sen. Sanders will prevent the federal government from profiteering on the backs of college students and use this money instead to significantly lower student loan interest rates.

3SUBSTANTIALLY CUT STUDENT LOAN INTEREST RATES.
Under the Sanders plan, the formula for setting student loan interest rates would go back to where it was in 2006. If this plan were in effect today, interest rates on undergraduate loans would drop from 4.29% to just 2.37%.

4ALLOW AMERICANS TO REFINANCE STUDENT LOANS AT TODAY’S LOW INTEREST RATES.
It makes no sense that you can get an auto loan today with an interest rate of 2.5%, but millions of college graduates are forced to pay interest rates of 5-7% or more for decades. Under the Sanders plan, Americans would be able to refinance their student loans at today’s low interest rates.

5ALLOW STUDENTS TO USE NEED-BASED FINANCIAL AID AND WORK STUDY PROGRAMS TO MAKE COLLEGE DEBT FREE.
The Sanders plan would require public colleges and universities to meet 100% of the financial needs of the lowest-income students. Low-income students would be able to use federal, state and college financial aid to cover room and board, books and living expenses. And Sanders would more than triple the federal work study program to build valuable career experience that will help them after they graduate.

6FULLY PAID FOR BY IMPOSING A TAX ON WALL STREET SPECULATORS.
The cost of this $75 billion a year plan is fully paid for by imposing a tax of a fraction of a percent on Wall Street speculators who nearly destroyed the economy seven years ago. More than 1,000 economists have endorsed a tax on Wall Street speculation and today some 40 countries throughout the world have imposed a similar tax including Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, and China. If the taxpayers of this country could bailout Wall Street in 2008, we can make public colleges and universities tuition free and debt free throughout the country.




BTW loans ain't free........ I see signs demanding free....... not lower loan rates.
 
BTW loans ain't free........ I see signs demanding free....... not lower loan rates.

The lower interest rates would be for students who already have student loan debt. College would be free for future students. Those are 2 separate issues.
 
It's not a tax on Corporations. It's a tax on Wall Street speculation, and it is a fraction of one percent.



You do realize Hillary gets paid big money to go tell them they are good with her......... and she still gets more votes than Bernie from Democrats....... most college education ain't worth it any more......... A good diesel mechanic will out earn most any of them.
 
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