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Saw an interview this am.......... guy told interviewer "we are seeing a peaceful over throw of the establishment gov't on both sides"........... said the Bernie peeps and Trump peeps make up a large portion of the voters and both sides are damn tired of the way things are.......... he also reminded peeps that most socialist countries shut down free speech and individual rights.


BTW..... did Bernie really choose to spend his honeymoon in the USSR...... SMH

also read a disturbing story about a former president and his fetish with young women...... very young..... as in minors....... anybody every read about that....... his billionaire friend has an island where very shameful things happen....... why would the former President even visit the island......... bet it comes up during his wife's war on women.

Reminder: Today is the day Rubio had his political career destroyed......... bye bye little Rubio....lmao
 
Seen news out of Ohio this morning where a ton of Democrats are voting for trump in early voting. Course dont mean anything yet,,,but i found that interesting. Lot of cops and vets voting for trump,,,lot of kids voting for the Bern. I would love to see Bernie kick Hillarys ***. Yehaaaaaaaaa
 
Me too, weedhopper....not feeling super optimistic but if he does do good, it will send a big message to Billary.

As far as Trump goes, are white men the only group he hasn't criticized?

So anxious about tonight!!!!!!

Crazy thing, I never gave a **** about anything political until now. Primary's? What the hell are those? :giggle: I used to get mad when presidential elections fell on my birthday because tv was interrupted..lol.
 
:rofl: thats funny.



As for me im gonna remain neutral while on this thread. That way nobody can get mad at me. Besides i was missing you guys and this thread. Lol
Go ahead and say it,,,im flip flopping like a politician. Actually, ,,im just having a little fun,,hopes yall dont mind. Yehaaaaaaaaa
 
Good luck today Hammy! break a leg! I am pulling for you and the Bern.
 
If you really want some insight on what the Trump voters are thinking........ Watch this....... pretty much sums it up......... y'all may disagree but it's the truth and lots of peeps are jumping on board the Trump Train........ which is surprising to me they chose him over the Bible thumper.

don't hate the messenger:48:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srGlyFyghRk
 
Bernie's real enemy?

Soros, Alarmed by Trump, Pours Money into 2016 Race The billionaire has already spent or pledged $13 million to help Hillary Clinton and other Democrats this year.

The liberal New York financier George Soros, whose effort to unseat President George W. Bush in 2004 shattered political spending records, is returning to big-ticket giving after an 11-year hiatus.

Soros has spent or committed more than $13 million to support Hillary Clinton and other Democrats this election cycle, already more than his total disclosed spending in the last two presidential elections combined.

Soros has expressed alarm over the past few months at the candidacies of Republicans Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. In a statement last week about a new group he's funding to increase voting by Latinos and immigrants in the election, he again mentioned the two candidates by name.




"The intense anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim rhetoric that has been fueled by the Republican primary is deeply offensive," Soros said in the statement. "There should be consequences for the outrageous statements and proposals that we've regularly heard from candidates Trump and Cruz."

Michael Vachon, a spokesman and political adviser to Soros, said there was no single cause for the increase in spending. "His support of Clinton is one reason. The tone of the other candidates is the other," Vachon said. The Clinton, Cruz and Trump campaigns, which face crucial primary contests in Ohio and Florida today, didn't respond to requests for comment.

Soros's importance to Clinton goes beyond the checks he writes, since other major Democratic donors sometimes follow his lead. At the same time, it's likely that in a general election, Trump would pillory Clinton for her reliance on Soros and other wealthy hedge-fund managers. The billionaire real-estate developer has spent months portraying his Republican rivals as the tools of their donors.

Soros, 85, a Hungarian-born speculator who made billions betting on price swings in currencies and other assets, has long been one of the right wing's favorite bogeymen and a magnet for conspiracy theories.

Last weekend, some Trump supporters and conservative media organizations blamed Soros for demonstrations in Chicago that caused Trump to cancel a planned rally, pointing to his past support for one of the groups that organized protests, MoveOn.org. In fact, MoveOn hasn't gotten funding from Soros since 2004, according to both Vachon and MoveOn spokesman Brian Stewart.

Soros's personal fortune stands at about $24 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index. Soros handed off day-to-day management of his hedge fund business in the late 1980's to focus on his charitable pursuits, many of which seek to promote democracy around the world. The Open Society Foundations say they have spent some $13 billion over the past three decades.

Soros spent an unprecedented $27 million trying to defeat Bush's re-election in 2004, much of it through independent groups known as 527s that could accept donations of unlimited size. While the groups Soros funded knocked on doors and tried to boost voter turnout, a conservative 527 group aired a powerful series of ads questioning Democrat John Kerry's war record, helping Bush win a second term. "They were in-your-face distortions of the truth," a frustrated Soros told the New York Times Magazine in 2006. "People don't care about the truth."

Soros signed on as an early backer of Obama during the 2008 campaign, but spent only about $5 million on political causes that cycle, according to a tally by Bloomberg that doesn't include undisclosed donations to political nonprofits. He spent even less in 2012, even though the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling prompted a flood of new seven-figure contributions that year.

At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland that January, he remarked to Reuters that some hard-right candidates would provide a big contrast with Obama but "there isn't all that much difference" between the president and Mitt Romney, the eventual Republican nominee. He also remarked that "a lot of the talent has left" Obama's administration.

A few months later, Soros told a Clinton confidant that he wished he hadn't backed Obama in the primary four years earlier.

"He said he's been impressed that he can always call/meet with you on an issue of policy and he hasn't met with the president ever," Neera Tanden said in a 2012 e-mail to Clinton, who was then serving as Obama's Secretary of State. "He regretted his decision in the primary -- he likes to admit mistakes when he makes them and that was one of them."

The e-mail was one of thousands of Clinton's messages that the State Department later made public, several of which show what a warm reception Soros got from her office. They show him planning a meeting with Clinton to request funding for a university he supports; recommending a few names of potential mediators for a crisis in Albania; and having a long talk with one of her aides about the situation in Burma. Over the past few years, Soros' charities have given between $1.5 million and $6 million to the Clinton Foundation.

Soros's biggest contribution this year is a total of $7 million to Priorities USA, the main super-PAC supporting Clinton. Another $1 million went to American Bridge, an opposition-research group. And last week, he announced he was putting $5 million into a new super-PAC known as Immigrant Voters Win. The group is part of a coordinated $15 million voter-turnout effort, first reported in the New York Times, that is targeting Latinos and immigrants in Colorado, Nevada and Florida.

The $13 million total puts Soros near the top of the list of this election cycle's biggest donors, and it doesn't include the $5 million he's pledged to another effort, led by Democratic lawyer Marc Elias, to challenge new voter-identification laws and other restrictions at the state level.

In an era of super-PACs, Soros's giving doesn't stand out like it used to. Thomas Steyer, the former San Francisco hedge-fund manager, spent more than $70 million in 2014, and the casino mogul Sheldon Adelson gave more than $90 million in 2012.

At Davos in January, Soros remarked that Trump and Cruz are engaging in "fear mongering." But he predicted that neither of them would prevail in the November election. "Here I have to confess to a little bit of bias, so take that into account," he told Bloomberg Television. "I think it's going to lead to a landslide for Hillary Clinton."


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...s-alarmed-by-trump-pours-money-into-2016-race
 
As for me im gonna remain neutral while on this thread. That way nobody can get mad at me. Besides i was missing you guys and this thread. Lol
Go ahead and say it,,,im flip flopping like a politician. Actually, ,,im just having a little fun,,hopes yall dont mind. Yehaaaaaaaaa

Hey, don't skip out. This thread is actually called Donald and mj. He can use a defender or two. Lots of folks like him, look how many primaries he's won. ;)

I think everyone is going to have to agree to disagree..I'm enjoying the debates tho.

Hammy, should Bernie ever drop out, who will you vote for in November?
 
It will be interesting to see what happens today.G13, i could never hate you if you are the messenger.. I like huff post. But not this lady on faux news. Man, she is pissed.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens today.G13, i could never hate you if you are the messenger.. I like huff post. But not this lady on faux news. Man, she is pissed.


Thanks pot mama......... we all need a better view of what's really happening so we can make informed decisions for ourselves and not because some news person said it's this or nothing else.
 
I agree. I have had a visceral reaction to trump, almost a DNA type memory of people like him..It is weird. I don't remember having this before with any candidate. But I know one thing, this thread has been a learning experience for maybe all of us. It is good to be able to disagree and still like each other very much.
 
Yes Mam i have learned alot from this thread. Mostly how great my friends are here on MP. We have come together and discussed politics and we still love each other. Awesome
 
I couldn't handle listening to that ladies voice for very long. She reminded me of a pissed off televangelist..lol. I liked her top tho. :laugh:

Duck, did ya vote for yourself? :D
 
SMH...... "No. We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices ... Government has to make those choices for people." – Hillary Clinton
 
I couldn't handle listening to that ladies voice for very long. She reminded me of a pissed off televangelist..lol. I liked her top tho. :laugh:

Duck, did ya vote for yourself? :D


Cruz hits me that way.......... the Bible thumper hits me like fingernails on a chalk board.
 
Cruz reminds me of one of those puppets from Jeff Dunham. Eather way he has something up his ***. Lol
 
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