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they represent 15% of the total delegates in the democratic primaries........ they are the leaders and big donors to the democratic party....... Hillary owns them or they own Hillary depending on how you look at it......... with a win in Fl and Ohio by Hillary and those super votes she is there....... the way it has been explained to me is the Democratic party built their primaries this way so big money and party leaders can control who their candidate is.

Even if what you said is true she still has to win Ohio and Florida. Come Convention if Bernie has even 1 more pledged delegate the Super Delegates will flip or the Democratic Party will not only lose the Election they will be done. Toast.
I understand being cynical when it comes to this crap but I also have been involved, hands on for quite a while and do truly think we have a shot. Is that so bad?
 
I understand G13 completely. I think we have two good candidates on the democratic party. I don't hate hillary at all. I was going to vote for her before hammy's passion made me follow my heart instead of my head...
 
Even if what you said is true she still has to win Ohio and Florida. Come Convention if Bernie has even 1 more pledged delegate the Super Delegates will flip or the Democratic Party will not only lose the Election they will be done. Toast.
I understand being cynical when it comes to this crap but I also have been involved, hands on for quite a while and do truly think we have a shot. Is that so bad?


your passion for your candidate is to be commended.......... and if Bernie wasn't a socialist I'd love to see him whip up on Hillary for sure....... I can't stand her........I'm so glad to see both sides pissed at the establishments of both parties........ both side have become more about doing for themselves and keeping the power than doing the work of the people........ and Hammy...... don't let the results of the elections negatively effect the way you view peeps with different political views and values than yourself........ it's hard not to do but those who can are those who have what it takes to lead others.
 
And don't lose your passion, maybe politics are in your future Hamster Lewis for President?
 
your passion for your candidate is to be commended.......... and if Bernie wasn't a socialist I'd love to see him whip up on Hillary for sure....... I can't stand her........I'm so glad to see both sides pissed at the establishments of both parties........ both side have become more about doing for themselves and keeping the power than doing the work of the people........ and Hammy...... don't let the results of the elections effect the way you view peeps with different political views and values than yourself........ it's hard not to do but those who can are those who have what it takes to lead others.

He is a Democratic Socialist. Much like FDR. The guy who was elected 3 times in a row he was so popular. So popular that they made a 2 term limit. Is wanting our tax dollars to go towards helping us that crazy an idea? Is Healthcare as a basic human right that crazy an idea.? It's not to me and many others.
 
Well damn. Sanders and Clinton had another debate tonight and I had no idea..
 
your passion for your candidate is to be commended.......... and if Bernie wasn't a socialist I'd love to see him whip up on Hillary for sure....... I can't stand her........I'm so glad to see both sides pissed at the establishments of both parties........ both side have become more about doing for themselves and keeping the power than doing the work of the people........ and Hammy...... don't let the results of the elections negatively effect the way you view peeps with different political views and values than yourself........ it's hard not to do but those who can are those who have what it takes to lead others.

see ham, no matter he is a democratic socialist. PEOPLE SEE COMMUNIST. i went to the hairdresser yesterday and they were talking about sanders being a SOCIALIST. how awful. i tried to educate the girls, but most voters are idiots.(unread uneducated nice people).
 
I have no trouble with the socialist part of Bernie, i don't really have any problem with bernie except i am not sure he can do what he wants, but hey lets let him try.

Good morning Grasshopper.
 
see ham, no matter he is a democratic socialist. PEOPLE SEE COMMUNIST. i went to the hairdresser yesterday and they were talking about sanders being a SOCIALIST. how awful. i tried to educate the girls, but most voters are idiots.(unread uneducated nice people).



I can plainly see the failures of Socialism........ Greece, Portugal and the rest of the European Union. They're all either bankrupt now or will be bankrupt soon....... They have no controls on their boarders....... they are ripe for take over by Muslims who have no intent on conforming to the values and standards.......... radical Muslim terrorism is becoming part of every day live for those in Europe....... Seems Switzerland is the only country able to make it work and btw they have the strictest immigration policies on earth. I suggest if it's socialism your craving go to Germany or France and live. I'd rather not live in a country that the govt decides winners and losers..........AND BTW peeps are not idiots just because they won't vote Bernie.
 
Im scared Bernie might drop and Hillary would still become President. That scares me,,,another 4 yrs of nothing getting done.

Trump :smoke1:

Mostly im just messen wit you guys. I personally dont have a freaking clue what to think anymore.
Except this...
Trump. :rofl:
 
Today the EU (Europe), adds more stimuli to aid its failing economy. Europe has lowered interest rates TO NEGETIVE, EVEN LOWER. Their deposit rate was MINUS.3%, now has gone to MINUS.4% (-. 4%) SAVINGS RATE !!! Lowered the refi rate from +. 5% to 0%. Expanded monthly asset purchases to 80 billion euros. Their goal is to get a sustained rise in inflation. Weaken their currency... JAPAN AS WELL has recently gone to NEGETIVE interest rates. Brazil, Russia in recession. Canada I think as well. As the U.S. has recently raised interest rates from 7 years of an EMERGENCY level of 0% to +. 25%. Big money is betting we will go back to 0%. Maybe even negative. CENTRAL BANKS are playing GOD. WE ARE BROKE!! The upside is, so is most everyone else!! WE HAVE NEVER PAID for the last recession. SHOULD have been an all out DEPRESSION. We just put off paying for it. WE CAN'T AFFORD to make payments on the INTEREST ALONE. We have to BORROW to pay that. CURRENCY wars are beginning. Gold off to best start of the year since 1974. Should we fall into recession (some believe we are in already) the central banks have NO AMMO LEFT to save us this time. This is why there is so many DOOM AND GLOOM forecasts. GOOD LUCK to whoever is the new president..
 
MORNING rose. I agree with Democratic socialism. My point is, people just see communist.
 
Today the EU (Europe), adds more stimuli to aid its failing economy. Europe has lowered interest rates TO NEGETIVE, EVEN LOWER. Their deposit rate was MINUS.3%, now has gone to MINUS.4% (-. 4%) SAVINGS RATE !!! Lowered the refi rate from +. 5% to 0%. Expanded monthly asset purchases to 80 billion euros. Their goal is to get a sustained rise in inflation. Weaken their currency... JAPAN AS WELL has recently gone to NEGETIVE interest rates. Brazil, Russia in recession. Canada I think as well. As the U.S. has recently raised interest rates from 7 years of an EMERGENCY level of 0% to +. 25%. Big money is betting we will go back to 0%. Maybe even negative. CENTRAL BANKS are playing GOD. WE ARE BROKE!! The upside is, so is most everyone else!! WE HAVE NEVER PAID for the last recession. SHOULD have been an all out DEPRESSION. We just put off paying for it. WE CAN'T AFFORD to make payments on the INTEREST ALONE. We have to BORROW to pay that. CURRENCY wars are beginning. Gold off to best start of the year since 1974. Should we fall into recession (some believe we are in already) the central banks have NO AMMO LEFT to save us this time. This is why there is so many DOOM AND GLOOM forecasts. GOOD LUCK to whoever is the new president..


Negative interest rates are a Socialist failure......... paying people to take money........ does anybody really think that works? SMH
 
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." -- Sinclair
 
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