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I have 600 hps. fox farm nutes 3 gallon pots ph level correct. air movement. i have #og kush, #pre 98 bubba kush, and (1) blackwater. was wondering if any could possibly guesstimate my dried weight outcome
 
Nope! sorry pilgrem cause yual can never calculatin the ammount of things need be known to judge. Yual do fine here with info, and folk here be warm but yur question be a bit vague I might say for one answer. Be patient the answer will come.

BWD
 
So much depends on the grow, you could never guesstimate. I'd like to say, but it's all up to your skills and conditions...and luck! and :yeahthat:

Good luck! :)
 
thanks back wood. and as on conditions. what would be the best condition
 
there are too many variables to even guess what size yeild you'll get . It's according to the plants you have as to the best condition. For the most part keeping the room in the 70 to 80 degree temp range with a 20% to 50% humidity will be the ideal setting.
 
How long did you veg for? Auto or Photo? you could honestly see anywhere from 1/8 -4.5oz roughly if you do things wrong/right
 
There are 2 ways to look at "best conditions". There are the optimum conditions which take many repeated grows of the same strain and phenotype of plant to determine exactly what the given plant likes. Many of the plant strains and the phenotypes within those strains will prefer a different and specific type of growing conditions according to that plant's DNA and where it originated. This includes the maximum amount of light and intensity, maximum amount of allowed structure growth, precise levels of PH and nutrients, precise daylight and night temperatures for both the canopy and root systems, and the precise amount of CO2 and other trace elements in the air that is moved around the plants.

As you grow a given strain over and over, if you pay close attention and are willing to experiment a bit, you will learn what that plant likes and will tweak the environment until you get close to the right formula that is the "best growing conditions" for that plant. Getting to the "optimum growing conditions" takes a lot of scientific diligence, and money to achieve. Fortunately for most of us, MJ doesn't require that we get to the "optimum" level to get plenty of quality bud.

For most MJ there is a general rule of conditions. It is: (1) at least 3000 lumens per square foot of growing area for vegging, and a bare minimum of 5000 lumens (prefferably 7000-8000) per square foot for flowering. This area must be closed in so that the light is not allowed to escape into a larger area that is unlit by equal lighting. (at least 18hrs on during day-period for vegging, but 24hrs is better. And 12on/12off for flowering)

(2) There has to be ventilation set up so that the air within the grow area is removed and replaced at least 1 time per minute so that fresh CO2 laden air can be moved in for the plants to breath, and to remove the heated, CO2 depleted air to prevent plants from getting hot. This ventilation should be set up in a way that it maintains as close to 75degree(22c) temp at the canopy during daylight, and as close to 65degree(18c) temp during dark hours. Maintaining this ballance of temps while removing heated and depleated air (also to cool lights) is the more challenging but vital part of having a good harvest.

(3) Maintaining a proper ballance of nutrients, which changes in needs during the life of the plant. This is very open to opinion as there are multiple ways of doing nutrients. The key though is to have a higher supply of macro-nutrients(NPK) and a lower supply of micro nutrients available to the plants in proper proportion while maintaining the proper level of PH throughout the grow. Typically PH is to be held within 5.5-6.0 for plants in hydro, and 6.3-6.8 for soil grows (if growing in organic setup PH is usually not an issue as microbes in the soil control that). Important is the presence of mind to not overfeed your plants as this is more detrimental than underfeeding.

(4) You must have good quality water as MJ is one of the more particular plants when it comes to what it absorbs. You need to make sure that your water doesn't have heavy metals or strong chemicals like chlorine/chloramine, and has a reasonable PH level. How much to water can be tricky until you learn your plants desires for moisture. If in hydro where water is a constant, aeration is key (actually aeration is key for any medium as the roots need to get a steady supply of oxygen). In soil this is achieved by allowing the soil to dry out a good bit between watering. For hydro, an air pump to continuously pump fresh air into the water supply is critical.

(5) one word: Patience

I am sure there is something that I have left out so one of the others will catch it and add it in. However, it is difficult to tell you to have exacting amounts of anything for your grow as each one is a little different. Pay close attention to your plants and they will tell you what they like and don't like. :) :)
 
Hushpuppy said:
(2) There has to be ventilation set up so that the air within the grow area is removed and replaced at least 1 time per minute so that fresh CO2 laden air can be moved in for the plants to breath, and to remove the heated, CO2 depleted air to prevent plants from getting hot.
:)

Great post as a whole but I would partially disagree with just this one portion of the above statement.

As long as you have fans circulating air, replacing the entire room worth of air once per minute in my opinion is a bit excessive. This I think would be more for a very small space as opposed to anything bigger than 3x3x8. It's not bad to have excess ventilation. It ensures that there is ALWAYS fresh air for the plants and the air never gets too warm. but as long as you have circulation blowing on your canopy and in your room the air won't get used up in the space of a single minute. So you can set your timers a little further apart. or set them to lower the exhaust fan to accommodate lower cfm and keep it continuous. Save a bit of money on your ventilation cost of electricity (it might only amount to like $50 over the course of a year but either way it's $50 saved)

Replacing the air once every 3 minutes for smaller spaces and once every 15 minutes for a larger space with ambient circulation seems to work quite well. my temps stay consistent and everything is happy.
 
PartyBro420 said:
Great post as a whole but I would partially disagree with just this one portion of the above statement.

As long as you have fans circulating air, replacing the entire room worth of air once per minute in my opinion is a bit excessive. This I think would be more for a very small space as opposed to anything bigger than 3x3x8. It's not bad to have excess ventilation. It ensures that there is ALWAYS fresh air for the plants and the air never gets too warm. but as long as you have circulation blowing on your canopy and in your room the air won't get used up in the space of a single minute. So you can set your timers a little further apart. or set them to lower the exhaust fan to accommodate lower cfm and keep it continuous. Save a bit of money on your ventilation cost of electricity (it might only amount to like $50 over the course of a year but either way it's $50 saved)

Replacing the air once every 3 minutes for smaller spaces and once every 15 minutes for a larger space with ambient circulation seems to work quite well. my temps stay consistent and everything is happy.

PartyBro, if you are only exchanging your air once every 15 minutes, that is almost certainly why you had a better grow when you introduced CO2 sporatically as your spaces ARE getting CO2 depleted--exchanging air every 15 minutes is really not nearly enough air exchange for a grow space, regardless of the size. I don't even like to run at a 3 minute exchange. An oscillating fan will push the air around, but does nothing to resupply CO2 to the plants.
 
as far as your kush goes i just harvested one. i did about 5 weeks veg and it was about 12 inchs tall ended up at harvest over 4 foot and i got a little over 2 oz dry when done. 3 gal pots and 1000 watts hps in a 4*5 room all fox farm stuff. hope that helps .
 
might sound like a stupid question, but when the seed banks state how many gms / m2 in SOG; are they talking about fresh or dried weight?
 
The Hemp Goddess said:
PartyBro, if you are only exchanging your air once every 15 minutes, that is almost certainly why you had a better grow when you introduced CO2 sporatically as your spaces ARE getting CO2 depleted--exchanging air every 15 minutes is really not nearly enough air exchange for a grow space, regardless of the size. I don't even like to run at a 3 minute exchange. An oscillating fan will push the air around, but does nothing to resupply CO2 to the plants.

Agreed, fast air movement req'd if not using a sealed room using CO2. i exchange the air every 15 seconds in my room.

And yield under best case scenario with the 600w would be about 1 lb
 
epicstuff said:
might sound like a stupid question, but when the seed banks state how many gms / m2 in SOG; are they talking about fresh or dried weight?

They are talking dried weight. They are also talking a sq meter which is 10.76 sq ft. Keep in mind that breeder's estimates are generally very optimistic--we generally do not get what they say we can get. And flowering generally takes a little longer than they say it will.
 
After the first couple of my grows I just started assuming that the weight had to be if you harvested from all 10 seeds that they're selling you. With my experiences there's NO WAY one of my plants is giving up 500g no matter how much space I give it.
 
Seed retailers and suppliers are businessess like anyone else and push to sell their product, be it through rigging Cups, clever packaging, or fudging strain stats...
 
yup, kinda like the "estimated" fuel ratings on new cars. they may SAY 32 m.p.g, but it ain't never gonna happen unless you're hooked to a tow truck..;)
 

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