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What would happen if we combined the genes of three ultra potent Elite strains all with very different flavors but similar high types? This is the question I set out to answer when creating our new release The Third Dimension. The strain Apollo-13 has long been a favorite of mine and many other collectors, it has a very unusual taste and an amazing high. Only 500 of these seeds were ever produced and those lucky enough to grow her never let her go. I have focused a good deal of my breeding efforts in back crossing her looking for the best make up to create an Apollo like hybrid in seed form. We have out crossed her with Black Russian, Space Queen and Now a Combination of SQ and Jacks Cleaner. The second part of the make up is Space Queen a BCGA hybrid of Romulan and Cindy99 and delicious cross with a candy/mango flavor.
The final part of this potent three way is of course my famed Jacks Cleaner mom. If it sounds complicated it was and also a lot of work but thanks to the great people at Heads you will be the first to hear about the project.
Having had great success with our cross Jack the Ripper (JC X SQ) we decided to work with a male and pollinate the Apollo as we also use her to test a males attributes in a known cross. This means we have made a lot of hybrids using her and by growing out her off spring we can determine if he is a good male or not lending either potency and or a different flavor. Once the seeds were mature and removed from the buds I allow the outer husk to dry for 2 weeks and then I refrigerate them for 2 nights stimulating winter, this also removes moisture as well. I am going to try something a bit differently here and pretend I am your average Joe Stoner growing some plants and only having room to start 2 seeds. This will narrow my odds considerably getting a keeper mom but its the same real world choices you guys make everyday when it comes to making some head stash of quality meds. I started the seeds in Rapid rooters and transplanted once they established roots. The plants grew very well and under a 400 watt MH grew up fast, I was able to sex one of these at least a full 2 weeks earlier than the other, well that question has been answered and started just 2 seeds we have had great luck and have 2 females. Theyre starting to mature enough that there taking on noticeable characteristics. I dont see a huge difference in the two plants and at 30 days they look pretty much alike.
The final part of this potent three way is of course my famed Jacks Cleaner mom. If it sounds complicated it was and also a lot of work but thanks to the great people at Heads you will be the first to hear about the project.
Having had great success with our cross Jack the Ripper (JC X SQ) we decided to work with a male and pollinate the Apollo as we also use her to test a males attributes in a known cross. This means we have made a lot of hybrids using her and by growing out her off spring we can determine if he is a good male or not lending either potency and or a different flavor. Once the seeds were mature and removed from the buds I allow the outer husk to dry for 2 weeks and then I refrigerate them for 2 nights stimulating winter, this also removes moisture as well. I am going to try something a bit differently here and pretend I am your average Joe Stoner growing some plants and only having room to start 2 seeds. This will narrow my odds considerably getting a keeper mom but its the same real world choices you guys make everyday when it comes to making some head stash of quality meds. I started the seeds in Rapid rooters and transplanted once they established roots. The plants grew very well and under a 400 watt MH grew up fast, I was able to sex one of these at least a full 2 weeks earlier than the other, well that question has been answered and started just 2 seeds we have had great luck and have 2 females. Theyre starting to mature enough that there taking on noticeable characteristics. I dont see a huge difference in the two plants and at 30 days they look pretty much alike.
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I am happy so far with this initial run and I can see traits from both mother and father. I mentioned one reason for this cross is to learn how dominant the JTR father we have chosen is going to be. JC parents are known to dominate crosses and Apollo-13 is or base line female since I have grown it out so many times and now also bred with her working this sibling cross will give me a good indication of how the father will react with other moms with use. The plants were transplanted into 5 gallon containers and topped to form a nice bush and when they hit 24 in height they were budded.
These are the signs I am looking for,
Early resin with fast formation of trichome heads and quick maturation of same. This will indicate a Apollo-13 dominant trait. Also I am looking for the weird funk/spice smell A-13 has to shine through and I have that as well. Now I am not testing the strain so much as running it for my own pleasure but while I am at it I will take notes on things to look for in larger generations. One day we will select either Vortex or The Third Dimension to keep as a main TGA strain but for now we can all enjoy the journey. Its no secret I am a big fan of what Mr Soul did and I am just playing along following the path he blazed.
The shorter female I am extremely excited about having started only 2 seeds and finding an Apollo dominant female means to me anyone getting a pack has a very good chance of it as well. At day 28 she already smells like Apollo momma, heavy resin and short structure with thicker stems is dead on target I couldnt wait to see what the second half of bud growth brings to us.
Day 35 and beyond
You never stop learning and the biggest leap forward in knowledge has been working closely with both Apollo and JC as well as the man plant Space Dude. We are learning what is locked inside the JTR male visually at first and by this point by fragrance. First off. The Apollo dominant female we call Jane is spot on the mark with A-13 looks and traits with a beefier frame and an added sweet I cant place yet. Maybe from the Cindy but I was hoping for this exact make up in a female.
At 35 days you can see trichomes that are fully amber just like with A-13 and most are fully formed so were taking speed from the mom and the Bi-father SQ. I added support stakes after this shoot but I could have gone longer A-13 wont stand up at all at this stage and that alone is a huge plus. I will of course stay on top of this so we can see what we have created. I am also happy to announce that unlike some of our gear this is a Sub project and you wont see it going away of running out of stock. Just the outcross of JC x SQ and then selecting a male took over a year I dont plan on loosing my male.
The sativa Dominant female is starting to pack on the buds though and this girl may get huge and hopefully not take forever. She stretched like crazy and I was sure at this point based on smell and resin build up, the buzz will be very speedy with high THC content with virtually no CBDs, the taste to me is kinda metallic to go along with the spicy smell.
As the Indica reached maturity she took on very tropical smells almost like a Pina Colada or some other frozen drink containing fruits and pineapple. The resin continued to expend and she matured very rapidly. I took her at about day 50 and she was just dripping with resin and gave up 2 ounces of dried cured buds. For a plant not even 36 tall finished I am happy with the results and will keep her in my garden.
Here are my smoke notes
Toke 1#
Sampling very small micro nugs so they will be dry. Inhale is smooth and reminds me of a passion fruit drink I used to get in summer camp. Exhale is smooth and also surprisingly sweet. Instant lobe floating and I started smiling the second I exhaled.
Toke #2
Large inhale and crosses my eyes.
Excuse me one second
Subcool does the happy dance across the Room IT TASTE GOOD! I am getting High!
Ok thats what they call a conniption fit I believe.
Toke #3
Our bongs a simple straight glass piece with a large water bin.
I use a simple cheap V shaped 3 hit that I pack about ¾ full and I pull it through in one hit clearing the toob as well. Sticky takes about 3 hits to my one and this is not a diss to Sticky but a reference as to how large a hit I take.
I exhale a cloud
The Buzz on the Indica was soft and pleasant and I sat staring at my pc for quite awhile but I didnt feel the need for a pot nap but ended up doing a photo shoot. I found myself smoking a lot of this strain in the following week even though I have full jars of some of my other favorites.
The sativa took a full 9 weeks to mature and as predicted the buzz was very racey and not to my liking however a good friend of mine that loves the energy head buzz of pure like sativas absolutely loves it. Even though the plant was very tall its total yield was only 3 ounces. I did a smoke test on this one and found the smoke to be flat as airy buds tend to be but after 3 hits I was soaring along jamming to music and smiling my *** off.
No one would complain about its potency and high but its not up to my standards on taste but variety is the spice of life!
The results of my little plant 2 seeds idea went very well and I pulled almost 5 ounces and some amazing bubble hash from these two plants. The Indica has been cloned and topped and is just entering bud as I type this ending. I am happy to give this one my stamp of approval!
These are the signs I am looking for,
Early resin with fast formation of trichome heads and quick maturation of same. This will indicate a Apollo-13 dominant trait. Also I am looking for the weird funk/spice smell A-13 has to shine through and I have that as well. Now I am not testing the strain so much as running it for my own pleasure but while I am at it I will take notes on things to look for in larger generations. One day we will select either Vortex or The Third Dimension to keep as a main TGA strain but for now we can all enjoy the journey. Its no secret I am a big fan of what Mr Soul did and I am just playing along following the path he blazed.
The shorter female I am extremely excited about having started only 2 seeds and finding an Apollo dominant female means to me anyone getting a pack has a very good chance of it as well. At day 28 she already smells like Apollo momma, heavy resin and short structure with thicker stems is dead on target I couldnt wait to see what the second half of bud growth brings to us.
Day 35 and beyond
You never stop learning and the biggest leap forward in knowledge has been working closely with both Apollo and JC as well as the man plant Space Dude. We are learning what is locked inside the JTR male visually at first and by this point by fragrance. First off. The Apollo dominant female we call Jane is spot on the mark with A-13 looks and traits with a beefier frame and an added sweet I cant place yet. Maybe from the Cindy but I was hoping for this exact make up in a female.
At 35 days you can see trichomes that are fully amber just like with A-13 and most are fully formed so were taking speed from the mom and the Bi-father SQ. I added support stakes after this shoot but I could have gone longer A-13 wont stand up at all at this stage and that alone is a huge plus. I will of course stay on top of this so we can see what we have created. I am also happy to announce that unlike some of our gear this is a Sub project and you wont see it going away of running out of stock. Just the outcross of JC x SQ and then selecting a male took over a year I dont plan on loosing my male.
The sativa Dominant female is starting to pack on the buds though and this girl may get huge and hopefully not take forever. She stretched like crazy and I was sure at this point based on smell and resin build up, the buzz will be very speedy with high THC content with virtually no CBDs, the taste to me is kinda metallic to go along with the spicy smell.
As the Indica reached maturity she took on very tropical smells almost like a Pina Colada or some other frozen drink containing fruits and pineapple. The resin continued to expend and she matured very rapidly. I took her at about day 50 and she was just dripping with resin and gave up 2 ounces of dried cured buds. For a plant not even 36 tall finished I am happy with the results and will keep her in my garden.
Here are my smoke notes
Toke 1#
Sampling very small micro nugs so they will be dry. Inhale is smooth and reminds me of a passion fruit drink I used to get in summer camp. Exhale is smooth and also surprisingly sweet. Instant lobe floating and I started smiling the second I exhaled.
Toke #2
Large inhale and crosses my eyes.
Excuse me one second
Subcool does the happy dance across the Room IT TASTE GOOD! I am getting High!
Ok thats what they call a conniption fit I believe.
Toke #3
Our bongs a simple straight glass piece with a large water bin.
I use a simple cheap V shaped 3 hit that I pack about ¾ full and I pull it through in one hit clearing the toob as well. Sticky takes about 3 hits to my one and this is not a diss to Sticky but a reference as to how large a hit I take.
I exhale a cloud
The Buzz on the Indica was soft and pleasant and I sat staring at my pc for quite awhile but I didnt feel the need for a pot nap but ended up doing a photo shoot. I found myself smoking a lot of this strain in the following week even though I have full jars of some of my other favorites.
The sativa took a full 9 weeks to mature and as predicted the buzz was very racey and not to my liking however a good friend of mine that loves the energy head buzz of pure like sativas absolutely loves it. Even though the plant was very tall its total yield was only 3 ounces. I did a smoke test on this one and found the smoke to be flat as airy buds tend to be but after 3 hits I was soaring along jamming to music and smiling my *** off.
No one would complain about its potency and high but its not up to my standards on taste but variety is the spice of life!
The results of my little plant 2 seeds idea went very well and I pulled almost 5 ounces and some amazing bubble hash from these two plants. The Indica has been cloned and topped and is just entering bud as I type this ending. I am happy to give this one my stamp of approval!
T
THE BROTHER'S GRUNT
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Hey Subcool thanks for taking the time putting up all these pics and information on your strains. :aok:
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verry nice subcool you are a cannagenius. reading your posts has been verry entertaining for me.man id love to meet you and smoke with you. mabey someday who knows.
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allgrownup
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This thread has some amazing information.
mucho gracias. :aok:
mucho gracias. :aok:
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allgrownup
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thats a healthy lookin plant mate. and beautiful pics!
well done n nice growin
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well done n nice growin
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WOW! thanks for sharing with us!
:holysheep: nice ! nice! nice!
:holysheep: nice ! nice! nice!
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Now that my friend is one frosty lady and a real looker. :hubba: She has so much frost on her makes ya wanna go snow boarding. 
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Thanks for sharing SUBCOOL!!!! :aok:
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After seeing all these.... I realize I have a LOT to learn.
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Lets go back a few years shall we?
lets look at some of the core genetics that make up the base of our lines.
Super Skunk
Originally found by Squid in a pack Of Sensi in about 1983 this strain was one of the first I smoked that tasted like the dank I first started smoking i the mid 70's when it was called " Homegrown" but cost 100$ a lid when sacs of Panama were like 15$ it resembles our Hash Plant and I always felt they came from the same mom at Sensi you will see the resemblance later
The SSK goes a full 65 and gets frosty and just smells like a dead body that was eatin by a swarm of angry skunks.
It also gives back well.
lets look at some of the core genetics that make up the base of our lines.
Super Skunk
Originally found by Squid in a pack Of Sensi in about 1983 this strain was one of the first I smoked that tasted like the dank I first started smoking i the mid 70's when it was called " Homegrown" but cost 100$ a lid when sacs of Panama were like 15$ it resembles our Hash Plant and I always felt they came from the same mom at Sensi you will see the resemblance later
The SSK goes a full 65 and gets frosty and just smells like a dead body that was eatin by a swarm of angry skunks.
It also gives back well.
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This strain blew us all away the first time we tasted her. many strain back then kinda tasted like there name but this one could not have been named anything else.
AE gave this cutting out to many people and it has been shared world wide. I have always felt it lacked potency even taken to 70 days but the flavor is amazing and she does very well as a commercial strain yielding well and providing a bag appeal that is hard to top. It's smells like tangerines or ripe oranges, a bud tore open even has the sharp peel smell it is trully amazing.
California Orange by AE
While working on the strain for the book me and Ed went round and round because I could not get him to understand clone specific traits.
Simply Put just buying Cali O seeds wont get you this female.
AE gave this cutting out to many people and it has been shared world wide. I have always felt it lacked potency even taken to 70 days but the flavor is amazing and she does very well as a commercial strain yielding well and providing a bag appeal that is hard to top. It's smells like tangerines or ripe oranges, a bud tore open even has the sharp peel smell it is trully amazing.
California Orange by AE
While working on the strain for the book me and Ed went round and round because I could not get him to understand clone specific traits.
Simply Put just buying Cali O seeds wont get you this female.
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