A.k.a. Greenybeanymeany Grow #2

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Everything looks good to me.. the only thing I can see is you're growing in soil. Now, that may make you laugh, or some soil people even roll their eyes.....BUT.. every single time I see a soil plant, it seems they claw a bit and just don't look quite as green. I'm not saying your plant doesn't look healthy, I'm saying it looks like it's in soil. HAH. :) :) I mean that with love.

LOL! I did laugh at that. And I know, I look at the pictures of yours and compare, and it just seems like I am doing something wrong. If only I could pull it out of the soil and transplant it to DWC!

You can clean out under the canopy in about 5 days from now, just out of a total guess, and only some fans and few nodes....mostly fans. Top areas of the plant seem quite healthy, so that's good. Pretty much always read your plant from the very tops, down through.

When you say mostly fans, do you mean, mostly fans that I clean out, or save? I need it dumbed down a bit too lol. Every time I go at it with my gardening scissors, I am unsure of what all to get rid of, and if I should even be touching it at all lol.
 
I look at the pictures of yours and compare, and it just seems like I am doing something wrong. If only I could pull it out of the soil and transplant it to DWC!

And it's not that you're doing anything wrong.. well.. maybe you DID some wrong things. But now, correction takes more time, because; soil. lol :)

Honestly, I try to be careful how I say what I say, because there's people there that ROCK soil!! I mean, "hats off" kind of rock. BUT.... with that said.. 90% of pics I see with issues are in soil. :( Your better bet would be out of that soil, into a better soil, I think.

When you say mostly fans, do you mean, mostly fans that I clean out, or save? I need it dumbed down a bit too lol. Every time I go at it with my gardening scissors, I am unsure of what all to get rid of, and if I should even be touching it at all lol.

I'll get you a good video later to give you an idea. Basically, you come up close to the main stalk or branch your trimming to clear stuff out. When I say "fans" I mean fan leaves. Cutting all of them would be ignorant, but to leave all of them would be equally ignorant. There's a fine line when it comes to trimming and training, and over time you learn how to maneuver on that line. So, I mostly mean the very little nodes at the absolute bottom, and some of the larger, less good looking fans at the lower 1/3. (not lower 1/2.. less than that)

Off to work, can't elaborate more yet.. speak soon! :D :aok:
 
And it's not that you're doing anything wrong.. well.. maybe you DID some wrong things. But now, correction takes more time, because; soil. lol :)

Honestly, I try to be careful how I say what I say, because there's people there that ROCK soil!! I mean, "hats off" kind of rock. BUT.... with that said.. 90% of pics I see with issues are in soil. :( Your better bet would be out of that soil, into a better soil, I think.
Lol, yeah there's no hiding my wrongs lol. But they are, for the most part, fixed.

And I know. People have crazy good results in soil. I'll probably go ahead and order some ff light warrior(I believe that's what its called)

I'll get you a good video later to give you an idea. Basically, you come up close to the main stalk or branch your trimming to clear stuff out. When I say "fans" I mean fan leaves. Cutting all of them would be ignorant, but to leave all of them would be equally ignorant. There's a fine line when it comes to trimming and training, and over time you learn how to maneuver on that line. So, I mostly mean the very little nodes at the absolute bottom, and some of the larger, less good looking fans at the lower 1/3. (not lower 1/2.. less than that)

Off to work, can't elaborate more yet.. speak soon! :D :aok:

I'm not sure why YouTube never comes to my mind anymore.. Lol.

I knew what you meant by fans, I just didn't know what you to do with them, save or cut.

Have a good day at work. I'm about to go to bed and then wake up for work in about 6 hrs, but I'll be checking back when I wake up.
 
Dgf, I need advice. The light says it covers 3x3. My closet is my only spot I can semi stealthily grow. My 2 ft tent rubs the door. So I can't go past to get the tent you recommended. All I can find.. The best I can find their deminsions are, 48" x24" x72" and 32" x20" x63"

I wanna go with the taller one, but I'm unsure because of light coverage.

I want to order tonight. And I can't find what I need at all. I see 2x2x7 stuff but they are in shops only, not online. And are multiple states away lol.
 
Give me time today when I come home from work. If I don't find something then 2 by 4 is just fine.
 
I'm assuming you didn't find any , so I'll probably just go ahead on the 2x4 when I get home tonigjt
 
The light 400w coverage is 3x3 at the hight of 24inches, so when you do veg, it can be used in your 2x4 tent successfully. However, I would suggest, if you have more money, you can add a smaller light like 48x3w in it, to cover the corner when do flower.*


best regards,*


Tina Chou

That's an email I just got from marshydro
 
I would just get another 400w and use two man. They daisy chain, and the power usage is VERY minimal. Light your space properly you know?

So, get another light... exactly like the one you have. Also, get the 2x4. Now, work on settling a strain and get to popping some beans to get your space rockin! :)

I got home late, and went right back out to run errands. I would say just got with the 2x4 and expand homie! :) Talk about doing it RIGHT now eh? hahaha
 
I would just get another 400w and use two man. They daisy chain, and the power usage is VERY minimal. Light your space properly you know?

So, get another light... exactly like the one you have. Also, get the 2x4. Now, work on settling a strain and get to popping some beans to get your space rockin! :)

I got home late, and went right back out to run errands. I would say just got with the 2x4 and expand homie! :) Talk about doing it RIGHT now eh? hahaha
Lol. I still haven't ordered. Work just got crazy busy. I may need to think and reroute, if I go spending 300 more dollars without ventilation, I'm gonna need a bit more for my funeral. Lol my wife would murder me. That or I supposed I could get the tent and keep it in one side, and work on the other light after the vents. Not fully sure, but I'll start thinking on it hard. And it would be pretty great to be getting other beans going. All in all you are pushing me towards my ultimately goal lol. I just gotta remain thinking low key, with my living arrangements.. Landlords and small closets.. Lol.
VENTILATION.... get... it!
For sure!
 
My main problem is money at this point. I shouldn't be throwing 100 at anything at the moment, but I'm gonna lol.
 
Yep. Thought on it for a whole 5 minutes.. And I'll just continue piecing I together as I go. Lol. Although im debating on buying the tent you linked and figuring out where or how to position it. Idk. Too many options. I'll wait til I get home and bust out my tape measure and figure it out. I'm getting really tempted to just go to home depot on my next day off and get the stuff to build a 2x2x7 box.. Tents are just more convenient though. It'd be hard to move a box if I decided to move this fall.

What I'm gonna do is check back here in a bit, in case you reply and smack some sense into me lol, and then go about everything else, and I'll post my FINAL decision tonight haha
 
imo tents are a total waste of money. get a big enough cardboard box for a washer or fridge and just paint it white from the inside and make doors for it with a box cutter. just make sure that the lights and electrical are far from it to avoid fires, but then again, there are so many flammable material in most grow rooms. once you are more settled in your place, you could make it from wood, or plywood or whatever. I still use cardboard for the walls of my different chambers, it's only the doors that i make them wooden. since money is limited, spare it for something that affects your grow more than a tent.
 
imo tents are a total waste of money. get a big enough cardboard box for a washer or fridge and just paint it white from the inside and make doors for it with a box cutter. just make sure that the lights and electrical are far from it to avoid fires, but then again, there are so many flammable material in most grow rooms. once you are more settled in your place, you could make it from wood, or plywood or whatever. I still use cardboard for the walls of my different chambers, it's only the doors that i make them wooden. since money is limited, spare it for something that affects your grow more than a tent.

It does seem more logical to just build your own, but I don't have the time or tools to do so at the moment. Lol and I wouldn't trust going the cardboard route. I don't think I'd really need to worry since I'm growing with a 400w LED, but I'd rather be safe than sorry lol.
 
ahh how many times have i heard that "cardboard?!" lol Cardboard is 100% opaque, and very well paintable, easy to work with and you can get it for free. i have 3x5 area sectioned completely using cardboard, with a wooden door and shelves. I have a cardboard sink LMAO seriously, my sink is a cardboard box lined with plastic it works so well that i forgot about it being a cardboard. If you see my greenhouse :rofl: it's about the 3rd year now, growing in cardboard rows in flood and drain, and the res below the plants are 4x500L cardboard res. wait i think i have pics lol
 
there... I know it's mind blowing but it's real. A greenhouse hydro system growing tomatoes cukes and peppers. as you see the rows are cardboard and duct tape lined with polyethylene plastic, being flooded and drained... the plants don't mind the cardboard or the cheap system, they only care to get all the nourishment possible.

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....don't use cardboard....

If you build something, build it correctly. :squint:


......cardboard... :rofl:

Ok, you can go back ghetto if you want, but if you do you be on your own my friend hah :) I don't get involved in ghetto applications, hence me trying desperately to get you OUT of a ghetto situation. You're just about there, don't fall back now!


Most important things right now, in order:

-Tent that fits (or make a space. To do this properly costs MORE than a tent, I freaking promise you.)
-Ventilation (this goes hand in hand with top one.. need these together)
-Light (you can go a bit with loss of reflection from just ONE wall, and be fine. Get another light later)

Random thought. I built a box once, for $100.00. I bought ALL the stuff at home depot. As a matter of fact, if you go to the end of "Grow Journal of a Cannabinoid Android" you'll see this box :aok: I built this just for drying.... It has trays I built with screens I built into them. Small hole in top and bottom, with 1 fan in top to help vent it out. I did so much to this thing, and proudly posted it. Then got warnings from a couple to NOT use it. You see, I didn't consider my wood before I did this because it didn't cross my mind. I ended up using plywood for the walls and wood to make the drawers that had been chemically treated. You see, I bought the cheapest stuff I could, so I could make the best thing I could for the cheapest price. Did it come out good? YEP!!! But as soon as I learned the harmful "off gasing" of the bad wood will leach into the flowers during drying and really make it unhealthy...I realized I was looking at $100.00 of uselessness. 2 years later this thing still stands in my garage doing NOTHING. I ended up doing what I originally wanted to do; I purchased a 2x2x7 tent JUST for drying... $75. It had all the hanging areas, and access and ports for vent or no vent.. however much you want to control.. ALL IN ONE READY TO GO. For $25.00 less and 4 hours less of time. (Yep, it took me 4 hours to build that box)

So here I am right now, considering either buying a larger tent for my two flowering spaces, or building a room. Cheaper to get a tent, as we found out from the "box incident" but more customizable and more options to building a room. I can make it air tight, install a mini split A/C in a newly built wall, etc etc. But you bet your buns, if I do make a room I would cheap out! :)

Sure, sinking money into this sucks. Have you already sunk more than I expected? YEP! You took right to this, like a new baby to milk. You're on track, don't get frustrated. Make sound purchases, and keep your wits about you. NO need to hurry! :aok:
 
ahh how many times have i heard that "cardboard?!" lol Cardboard is 100% opaque, and very well paintable, easy to work with and you can get it for free. i have 3x5 area sectioned completely using cardboard, with a wooden door and shelves. I have a cardboard sink LMAO seriously, my sink is a cardboard box lined with plastic it works so well that i forgot about it being a cardboard. If you see my greenhouse it's about the 3rd year now, growing in cardboard rows in flood and drain, and the res below the plants are 4x500L cardboard res. wait i think i have pics lol

Hah man.. you are ASKING for issues eh? I do admit, you seem to be "the cardboard king" at this rate hah :)

Hats off to you Zem, but I would never recommend cardboard. I used a cardboard box to prop up a plant once. It had a water catch so that it wouldn't get wet, but I DID get moist one day (tent got up to 80% RH) and high RH will make cardboard do the WOBBLE WOBBLE lol!!!!
Needless to say, that one plant fell over during the night. I was 5 weeks into flowering. Nothing major happened, except my epiphany to never use cardboard again. :D
 

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