A.k.a. Greenybeanymeany Grow #2

[schoolboy420]

Grrrrrrrrrrr... I just typed this BIG freaking post, and the web browser failed and I lost it all...

Going to sum it up quick, as I'm not pissed off because that was a rather large post.

I wanted to say: WOO, AWESOME IT IS A GIRL!! I can see the pistol in the first pic :aok:
Also, I'm glad you even have the smaller tent setup, as the plant really needed the room!! But, don't delay on the other tent OR the ventilation setup!
And finally, the light distance I told you was based on lots of reading, other LED growers, and the knowledge of LED power / distances. Basically, that Mars light is a great light, just not quite as intense as some of the really expensive ones. I've noticed that I've been able to keep my light about 14" from the canopy and so far I have no "bleaching"...one of the buds is at 10" from the light and no bleaching, but I'm sure it's a bit close.

Lol, don't you hate when that happens.

I wasn't too sure if it was visible until after I posted the picture, and my eyes adjusted back to normal lol. I was under that light for close to half an hour.

Yeah the vent system and tent is gonna be needed soon.

And I see. Yeah I figured you had reasons for saying more of a distance that they did.

OH.. also.. I see your fan on the exhaust.. fine for now, but I would put another one in the bottom of the tent pointing in. So that cooler, fresh air comes in from the bottom.. then, hot air rises, and your top fan sucks it out (a bit).

Awesome, I don't think its doing a whole lot of good. The fans not quite powerful enough for the job.its staying at about 100 in there. So I've opened the little flaps on the side. It has long strips of mesh on the sides. That should allow some breathing for the moment. I need to get another fan for now. And this weekend I gotta do some ordering.

I'm working now so I can't really go too far into the back and forth stuff yet lol. I'll be back on it in a few hrs

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I've opened the little flaps on the side. It has long strips of mesh on the sides

Hahahha, YES these need to be open. The "mesh window / door / thingies" need to be open for passive air near the bottom of the tent. :aok:

 

[schoolboy420]

Lol okay. I wasn't sure if they needed to be or if was mostly just for a zipper free peak in. Lol

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

:rofl:

 

[schoolboy420]

I told my wife to check the temp and if it was high at all to open them. She said it was right on 90

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Nice, when you get your REAL vent setup in there, you'll be hitting the numbers you need to.

When's the vent system and new tent lined up for? Tell the wife to go dig up some extra funds! hahahah

:ciao: < Hi Wife!

 

[schoolboy420]

Nice, when you get your REAL vent setup in there, you'll be hitting the numbers you need to.

When's the vent system and new tent lined up for? Tell the wife to go dig up some extra funds! hahahah

:ciao: < Hi Wife!

Lol. I am ready for it all that's for sure. I should be able to get it all, or at least the vent stuff, this weekend. I'm shooting for all of it. But idk, its been a slow week and that's never good when ya work for tips lol, especially when you got a few bills due.

Lol I'll tell her, not that it will do me any good hahaha

 

[schoolboy420]

Alright, I got the tent situated in a different room.. The room we smoke in, and were always leaving the window open, so it is the coolest room in the house. Got it all situated in the closet.

My temp dropped to 80 pretty quick. And humidity rose from 25-30% to 34%. Not huge differences, but its certainly better

And for being in the tent, and under the LED, only a little over 24 hrs, I can see a major difference in growth speed.

 

[schoolboy420]

Yeah, it's looking like you're going to have to get to moving some shelves if you can safely do that without hurting your space. :aok:

Great news, the shelves are easily moved. I just assumed they'd be screwed in or secured.

Do you think I could get by in a 2x4? The 2ft is almost pushing it in depth, I can barely get my closet door shut over it to hide it.

So the 3x3 I linked would stick out by a whole foot. Width isn't really much of an issue. I wish I could just find a 2x2x7, that would be great. Or 2x3x7 even. I just knew you said the light covers a 3x3 area, so I think in a 2x4 area, it wouldn't be as efficient.

..I know, I'm basically asking a question that I am answering myself. Lol. I'll just continue looking.

 

[MR1]

Scoolboy, good to see you are getting everything set up properly, you will see a big difference. You are lucky to have Fang helping you out.

 

[schoolboy420]

Scoolboy, good to see you are getting everything set up properly, you will see a big difference. You are lucky to have Fang helping you out.

Thanks mr1. Its only been a few days, but things seem to be slowly gaining more and more speed. And its looking a bit healthier too!

And lucky, I believe, would be an understatement! The doc has been amazing!

 

[schoolboy420]

I went ahead and fed her today. My pH was 6.3 and I mixed 1tsp into a gallon. I went very light to avoid any possible burns. The directions say 2-3 tsp per gallon. So I figure 1tsp was a safe bet.

 

[schoolboy420]

Picture update.

Here's a few from yesterday..
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I know it is hard to tell, but the more pink centers of the leaves were actually yellowing a bit. And unless I am mistaken, that's a nitrogen deficiency (correct me if I am wrong). So like I said in the post before I decide to feel a weak dose.

Now for pics from a few minutes ago.. I fed somewhere around 16 hrs ago and I am just now able to really thoroughly check.

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Now, I noticed, despite the low dose, I still have a slight touch of burn on the very tips of very very few leaves. My main concern lies in the clawing of all or most of the leaves. I'm fairly positive there is an answer to that in a sticky on the "sick plants" area. Sorry for the double pictures, its the only way I can set it up like above. Stupid Tapatalk app.

 

[schoolboy420]

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You may have to click that for it to pull up..I'm never sure though. I don't see 90% of emoticons.

Yay, I was most likely right. Early stages. I can't quite tell if it was nitrogen or magnesium though.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Holy s.h.i.t., data base error and my HUGE huge huge post just went away. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I'm really pissed off about that one.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Ok, as for the 2x4...it would probably "work" but I would buy another light for it We'll look for a proper 2x2 for you, I'm sure we can get it because I have one

Or, you get another light....but I think you should get your funds going to ventilation and other things to move you on, don't you?

As for deficiency. I don't see any, but whenever you want to show us pics and ask about things like that, unplug your LED and turn on another white light and/or use your camera's flash. That pink light of doom is tough to sort out issues with

Also, deficiency will mostly show itself from the middle of the plant to the top. If you have some yellowing at the very bottom of your plant, don't worry so much because it's probably just a piece that's having the energy stores used up. When the piece gets less green than anything else, you can go ahead and trim it off (if you're in veg obviously). Otherwise, if you're seeing a bit of "yellowing" coming from where all the new growth is at the top, that is NORMAL! That means you're getting some explosive growth out of your lead growth nodes. :aok: The little burn at the tips is usually good, letting you know your food is right where it needs to be, maybe a little warm.

If you have any thoughts, questions, etc...I'll be around a little bit more this morning :aok:

 

[schoolboy420]

Holy s.h.i.t., data base error and my HUGE huge huge post just went away. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I'm really pissed off about that one.

I absolutely hate when that happens!

Ok, as for the 2x4...it would probably "work" but I would buy another light for it We'll look for a proper 2x2 for you, I'm sure we can get it because I have one

Or, you get another light....but I think you should get your funds going to ventilation and other things to move you on, don't you?

As for deficiency. I don't see any, but whenever you want to show us pics and ask about things like that, unplug your LED and turn on another white light and/or use your camera's flash. That pink light of doom is tough to sort out issues with

Also, deficiency will mostly show itself from the middle of the plant to the top. If you have some yellowing at the very bottom of your plant, don't worry so much because it's probably just a piece that's having the energy stores used up. When the piece gets less green than anything else, you can go ahead and trim it off (if you're in veg obviously). Otherwise, if you're seeing a bit of "yellowing" coming from where all the new growth is at the top, that is NORMAL! That means you're getting some explosive growth out of your lead growth nodes. :aok: The little burn at the tips is usually good, letting you know your food is right where it needs to be, maybe a little warm.

If you have any thoughts, questions, etc...I'll be around a little bit more this morning :aok:

Awesome. I figured I'd go 3x3 but if you can manage to find a 2x2 I'll be more than happy to get it. My closets ate all 2 foot deep exact lol. And I suppose it could just be out explosive new growth, but seemed like a deficiency. According to the chart on sick plants and problems it looked like either magnesium or nitrogen. More so like nitrogen and it seemed to show in the middle and top. The burn doesn't look like its spread any, so I figured I did perfect. The clawing looks a little better today too. I'll post better pictures in a few minutes


But yes, I'd rather keep the money going to the other stuff lol.

I wonder if they sell tent extensions. That would be nice to just buy a few more feet for the top lol
Although I think that would allow a light leak in the back

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I wonder if they sell tent extensions. That would be nice to just buy a few more feet for the top lol

Gorilla Tent does this, and does this well. Gorilla Tents are basically "the best tent money can buy" .. and it shows....the whole money can buy thing, WOO! They are sure expensive!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gorilla-Gro...310?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41891a198e

My favorite tent is a Sun Hut. Best bang for the buck without a doubt!

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

This is kind of like the 2x2x7 I use for my drying only tent... this may be the "upgraded" version of my exact tent maybe... It's actually 2.6' x 2.6' x7'

http://www.lighthousehydro.com/grow-tents/full-mylar-grow-tent-2-6x2-6x7.html