A.k.a. Greenybeanymeany Grow #2

[schoolboy420]

Guess fed ex tracking lied. I woke up and my led was on my doorstep.

You think I'll be wasting time even setting it all up in the 4footer til next week(I can probably have a new tent here early next week)

 

[schoolboy420]

I can't really do anything at all until tonight. And I supposed I can just get it set up in my tent and do some measurements and find out if I am able to transfer over. If not I can probably make some adjustments to my box, that its already in, for the time being. CFLs are getting awfully close.

 

[schoolboy420]

On the mars hydro site, the specs show to keep the light 18-24" from the top during veg. Which that contradicts what you said on spacing a bit, do you find trouble having it lower than 24"?

If not and you just had it a little wrong, that will buy me a little more space in the tent, until this weekend/ early next week when the tent should arrive

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

Yeah, you should be good.. IF you have proper ventilation, or at least manageable temps.

 

[schoolboy420]

Yeah, you should be good.. IF you have proper ventilation, or at least manageable temps.

Right on. I'll def be keeping a close eye on it.

 

[schoolboy420]

Quick pics. And I'll post up some after I set the tent up.

 

[schoolboy420]

Yep

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[schoolboy420]

Alright. It measure 20" from the bottom of the light to the top of the plant. Which means I'm barely alright, so that will most certainly put some pep in my step and make me order ASAP!

I doubled up on the wires, just as you did doc.

I don't need any of the pulleys right now. I decided to smoke before doing this.. And I had a great idea about switching the clip from the light with the one with the pulley, so that it will clip to the bar in the tent.. Only problem is.. And it just dawned on me.. I didn't even use the pulley, so I am using two clips for no reason LMAO. Well that will give me another inch or two hahaha.


And a bit of great news, she's a GIRL! I just found a pistil[emoji2]
I tried to capture it in a pic, but I'm not sure how well it will look. I should've worn some shades while doing my adjustments, and trimming up some old burnt up leaves that were blocking light from my trillions of stalks that have been forming. Which, I tried getting pics of those too.

All the lights in my house seem extremely yellow.. Lol

Alright, now for the pictures. First up, is the pistil. Everything is extremely purple in the pics, so I'm not sure if you'll be able to tell. The later pics are after I trimmed.

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[schoolboy420]

I had to make two posts. I wasn't sure if this app would mess up my already uploaded pics, if I edited the post.

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[schoolboy420]

My temp in there is 82° and humity is 30%

 

[schoolboy420]

And here is my (very temporary) ghetto exhaust. Its up top, and I have the drawstring pulled just enough for there to be no way it will fall through lol

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[Dr. Green Fang]

Grrrrrrrrrrr... I just typed this BIG freaking post, and the web browser failed and I lost it all...

Going to sum it up quick, as I'm not pissed off because that was a rather large post.

I wanted to say: WOO, AWESOME IT IS A GIRL!! I can see the pistol in the first pic :aok:
Also, I'm glad you even have the smaller tent setup, as the plant really needed the room!! But, don't delay on the other tent OR the ventilation setup!
And finally, the light distance I told you was based on lots of reading, other LED growers, and the knowledge of LED power / distances. Basically, that Mars light is a great light, just not quite as intense as some of the really expensive ones. I've noticed that I've been able to keep my light about 14" from the canopy and so far I have no "bleaching"...one of the buds is at 10" from the light and no bleaching, but I'm sure it's a bit close.

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

OH.. also.. I see your fan on the exhaust.. fine for now, but I would put another one in the bottom of the tent pointing in. So that cooler, fresh air comes in from the bottom.. then, hot air rises, and your top fan sucks it out (a bit).

 

[zem]

if your exhaust fan is small, get a bigger one, but placing one exhaust and another intake is not as efficient. placing both as exhaust you would be venting much better. but most like to exhaust with one big enough fan and let the passive intake do its thing

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

if your exhaust fan is small, get a bigger one, but placing one exhaust and another intake is not as efficient. placing both as exhaust you would be venting much better. but most like to exhaust with one big enough fan and let the passive intake do its thing

:aok: That's another way, and it works better if you have higher RH than temp. If you have higher temp, pumpin in some air from outside beyond the passives works good.

He does have a point... if you're going to ghetto it up, use two in the top and 1 in the bottom....but...now we're just getting crazy for a temporary solution hahahah Get the ventilation setup purchased

 

[zem]

:aok: That's another way, and it works better if you have higher RH than temp. If you have higher temp, pumping in some air from outside beyond the passives works good.

He does have a point... if you're going to ghetto it up, use two in the top and 1 in the bottom....but...now we're just getting crazy for a temporary solution hahahah Get the ventilation setup purchased

lol ok but that's not what i meant, i meant to drop the active intake idea altogether imo if he needs more venting place a bigger exhaust or 2 exhaust or 3 exhaust lol just that one pushing and one pulling they are almost doing the same thing in air exchange whereas 2 pulling is almost doubling air exchange

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

I disagree.

Zip yourself up in the tent and smoke a bowl. Watch the smoke. lol.

If you have MORE exhaust than intake, then you're fine. I see how you were worried about that, so mentioned 2 fans. This setup will work just fine. Pushing in cooler air faster than the passive intake is a great idea. I've done it in the past, but not for long. I also do this for my drying tent, as too much RH builds up when I do exhaust only.
Especially good in a closet :aok:

Zem.. luv ya bud. We're just disagreeing here. DOH!

 

[zem]

I disagree.

Zip yourself up in the tent and smoke a bowl. Watch the smoke. lol.

If you have MORE exhaust than intake, then you're fine. I see how you were worried about that, so mentioned 2 fans. This setup will work just fine. Pushing in cooler air faster than the passive intake is a great idea. I've done it in the past, but not for long. I also do this for my drying tent, as too much RH builds up when I do exhaust only.
Especially good in a closet :aok:

Zem.. luv ya bud. We're just disagreeing here. DOH!

yeah keep your limits :chuck: you know it might become personal any time :laugh: kidding but yeah we are clearly disagreeing. the thing in passive intake is that it has to be big, and not just a little bigger but 3x+ the exhaust. if you have a big enough passive intake air will just flow freely and the cfm of the fan will work to its full without help from an active intake fan

 

[Dr. Green Fang]

yeah keep your limits :chuck: you know it might become personal any time :laugh: kidding but yeah we are clearly disagreeing. the thing in passive intake is that it has to be big, and not just a little bigger but 3x+ the exhaust. if you have a big enough passive intake air will just flow freely and the cfm of the fan will work to its full without help from an active intake fan

Normally, yes.. 100% agree there. But, c-mon.. CFM from a clip fan at the top of a 2x2x4 tent? hah! I'd be curious what the CFM rating would be there

Oh why you..:rant:..comin at me with the ninja skills! :tokie::joint4::angrywife::hitchair::woohoo:

 

[zem]

no certainly not a clip fan exhaust. the exhaust needs to be tightly sealed around the fan so that it sucks and it has to have some power to it to exchange the air no less than once per minute and growers normally get 3x per minute cfm rating. remember you need to compensate for any bends curves ducts filters obstacles etc.... i give such a priority to making free airflow in my room that the entire room is built considering it. i have a main exhaust chamber through it all the air passes and it sucks mostly from the flowering chamber and a little bit from the veg chamber. i made as much openings as i can in my room so that air flows in freely. i like to make use of passive systems as much as i can, and having one less fan with same results and less cost is a must do for me