1st Grow W/ Real Strain(bubblelicious-nirvana)

docfishwrinkle · May 29, 2008

so im @ 4.5 wks flower w/ my "learners" bagseed grow. have learned a great deal of do's & don'ts. need input if this game plan sounds like it should be a producer.

VEG. SETUP
10 bubblelicious seeds
30h,30w,48l tent lined w/ mylar
4-32w cool white floro tubes
2-4" fans placed @ opposite sides of tent
6" pots
SOIL
75% pro mix
25% perlite
1/2" pea gravel
1 tblsp dolmitic lime
1 tblsp blood meal
2 tsp bone meal
blood & bone meal will be mixed w/ little soil & layered @ bottom of pot
foliar feed kelp/cal mg
will veg. approximately 6 wks or until show ***. will keep 1 good male & flower in tent (warm white tubes)when move fem. to flower room. will (hopefully) be putting 5 fem. under a 3x3 scrog in 3 gallon pots.

docfishwrinkle · May 29, 2008

FLOWER SETUP
3w,4l,5h closet lined w/ mylar
scrubber>300cfm sound proofed blower>cool tube>exit closet
600w hps digital ballast

SOIL
75% pro mix
25% perlite
1" pea gravel
1/4 c dolomitic lime
1 cup kelp
3 tblsp blood meal
5 tblsp bone meal
2 tblsp terra-cycle (various castings, guano)
last 3 ingredents mixed w/ soil & layered on bottom of pot

NUTES
foliar feed kelp/cal mg
fox farm-open seasme,beastie bloomz,cha ching
following their instruction

is this soil & nutes for flower to "hot"?

Dubbaman · May 29, 2008

Sounds like one hell of a game plan to me well thought out and prepared now all you need is a GJ on them and IMO id just do the whole grow in under the HPS your plants will thank you for it by the end with thicker bigger buds, faster growth too, and if you wanted some blue in the light while vegging just toss in those cool whites right on top of them

** i also have seen that the bubbleicious is a white dominate strain and is sensitive to extra nuting, Ive read a lot of pages on it here on the site that this can happen with this strain in particular. I have some going now in my 30 seeds link 12/12 from seed grow about 4 weeks flower now, ive gone with half doses and so far so good.

docfishwrinkle · May 29, 2008

im using 600w hps currently & will be for bud on this grow as well. useing cool white for veg & warm white for flower of male. should i consider useing less blood & bone meal if any @ all? got me nervous now cause if you've seen my current grow i mistakenly added too muh lime in my flower soil & caused burn but they should pull out of it.

4u2sm0ke · May 29, 2008

yup..sounds like a grow journal in the makeing...How about some MJ ****..we love pics...Keep M GREEN

docfishwrinkle · May 29, 2008

4u2smoke said:
yup..sounds like a grow journal in the makeing...How about some MJ ****..we love pics...Keep M GREEN

will definately have a GJ goin once i get it goin. currently in 5 wk of bud. will post once seedlings take off. germin this weekend.

The Hemp Goddess · May 29, 2008

Since your height in your flowering space is limited, I would use the flouros to veg, not the HPS. The HPS during vegging will encourage stretching and you only have 5'. There are advantages to using fluoros during vegging (I have a 400W MH that I do not even use anymore). The lower electricity costs and the lower heat make fluoros a good choice for vegging IMO. Keep the fluoros close to the top of your plants during veg and you can get thick lush plants with tight internode spacing. Put these under a HPS for flowering and you will have your nice tight nuggs. You will probably need more ventilation to keep your space cool when you go to the HPS.

docfishwrinkle · May 29, 2008

The Hemp Goddess said:
Since your height in your flowering space is limited, I would use the flouros to veg, not the HPS. The HPS during vegging will encourage stretching and you only have 5'. There are advantages to using fluoros during vegging (I have a 400W MH that I do not even use anymore). The lower electricity costs and the lower heat make fluoros a good choice for vegging IMO. Keep the fluoros close to the top of your plants during veg and you can get thick lush plants with tight internode spacing. Put these under a HPS for flowering and you will have your nice tight nuggs. You will probably need more ventilation to keep your space cool when you go to the HPS.

currently flowering 6 fems in 3 gal pots in 3x4x5 area w/ hps starting veg of bubblelicious in tent 30w,30h,48long w/ cool floros not useing hps 4 flower & also will be scrog in flower area. please read thread from beginning. thanks not trying to be snotty. thanks for info will keep in mind.

4u2sm0ke · May 30, 2008

What is your temps in the VEG tent?.....Do you exhaust?...Carbon scrubber?..just tryN to paint a PiCtUrE in my stoned head...Keep M GREEN

budpassion · May 30, 2008

I grew some of that a while back very tasty strain lodded with trics,i was very happy with the outcome.Good Luck & Stay Safe!!

docfishwrinkle · May 30, 2008

4u2smoke said:
What is your temps in the VEG tent?.....Do you exhaust?...Carbon scrubber?..just tryN to paint a PiCtUrE in my stoned head...Keep M GREEN

still under construction & no ill exhaust being soooo small couple daily check ins will give enough gas exchange. temps will be 74-78 w/ floros being on top of em. now my flower area is currently runnin 65* 45%rh @ night & 76* 35%rh @ day & yes vented w/ scrubber pics of flower room here @ bottom of posthttp://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25956

bombbudpuffa · May 30, 2008

Sounds like you've got everything under control

. Good luck with your grow.

docfishwrinkle · May 30, 2008

bombbudpuffa said:
Sounds like you've got everything under control. Good luck with your grow.

wuz up BBP seen some of your grows & nice job. you think everything w/ nutes & way being applied & mostly important amounts are good? just lil worried cause ran into probs w/ 1st bagseed grow, but now i believe i have a handle on it just still leary.http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25956
just to show you why im leary but i believe if i put layer of ammendments toward bottom of pot plant will gradually ease on into it instead of just being thrown into a mess of nutes.

Timmyjg6 · May 30, 2008

Are you only using fox farms, open seasme, beastie bloomz and cha ching? You also need Big bloom and tiger bloom...

bombbudpuffa · May 30, 2008

Hello DFW

. I've never layered my soil so I can't give good advice on layering. Looking at your mixes though I would say there isn't any need to layer. I never use blood and bone meal or perlite either(I know, i'm weird). The only ammendments I use are earthworm castings. I seriously doubt if your mixes are hot though. They sound good to me. How much potting mix are you making at once? The promix has plenty lime so you really shouldn't need that. I def wouldn't add a 1/4 cup if you're using promix but I mix in 3 gallon increments...maybe you're mixing bigger?

docfishwrinkle · May 30, 2008

BBP thanks a ton i didnt know promix already contained lime. you really put my mind @ ease now NO MORE LIME!!! i also mix in 3 gal increments.

timmyjg6 yeah im only useing that tri pack, trying to use up ammendments that i alresdy have laying around b/4 buying other tri pack to accommodate seasme, bloomz, ching. figured w/ my outline for flower soil should work out good. give me your input. also why is it that on back of jar it gives you measurements 4 stand alone or mix w/ other like b.b & t.b. & have talked w/ other people that also just use tri pack that i have. im cornfused now please fill me in on why. thx

subcool · May 31, 2008

layering works well in small areas. It helps when the plant has used up the available nutrients by week 4 of budding and allows them to finish without fading.
I will totally agree with Bombbud I dont grow any weed with worm castings and Perlite has no nutrient value it just takes up space maybe back off that some
Dont use the pea gravel again wasted space with no benefit to the plants.

docfishwrinkle · May 31, 2008

bombbudpuffa said:
Hello DFW. I've never layered my soil so I can't give good advice on layering. Looking at your mixes though I would say there isn't any need to layer. I never use blood and bone meal or perlite either(I know, i'm weird). The only ammendments I use are earthworm castings. I seriously doubt if your mixes are hot though. They sound good to me. How much potting mix are you making at once? The promix has plenty lime so you really shouldn't need that. I def wouldn't add a 1/4 cup if you're using promix but I mix in 3 gallon increments...maybe you're mixing bigger?

BBP if you only ammend w/ w. castings, what do you use for nutes??? one last thing do you check ph on soil, water, or run off? inquiring minds wanna know...

smokybear · May 31, 2008

Sounds like you have everything under control. Do you have any pictures? We would love to see. Keep us posted my friend. Take care and be safe.

docfishwrinkle · May 31, 2008

smokybear said:
Sounds like you have everything under control. Do you have any pictures? We would love to see. Keep us posted my friend. Take care and be safe.

not yet as this thread is to iron out any wrinkles in my game plan. im germin in couple days soon as i finish my veg tent & order f.f. grow big, big bloom, & tiger bloom. are u familiar w/ liquid & granular fox farm nutes? if so can i just use pro mix soil & just nutes & have a good grow? thanks

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