When it comes to the Satori man the only difference between them is one went triplody on me ant the other hadnt, if not for that they could be freaking twins thay are that stable. So far im loving the Mandala line, these seem to put on more and more every time i go in to :watchplant:, and its only been 2.5 weeks since the kick to 12/12, so depending on how you do your weeks flowering count its really only been a week and a half in flower and those bud formations are the same size as a quarter around :hubba: