I'm 6 weeks into Flowering some Silver Haze and Mr. Nice-G13 and I have a big mite problem. I'm currently using azamax but I don't know if I have enough time. My question is this, do the mites just eat the leaves or will they go into the bud also? The buds are looking good but all my leaves have yellowed bigtime. I just don't know if it will be safe to smoke. Any advice be be appreciated. Thanks from Ohio.
Spider Mites on budding plants?
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IMO, it is too late to use anything. SN209 will not get rid of them if you have them and really, this late, virtually anything you use you will be ingesting. And most of it is either dangerous to ingest or it makes the bud taste terrible.
You can still smoke it. Not to gross you out, but you are probably getting less "bug parts" smoking bud that had spider mites than when you eat breakfast cereal.
You can still smoke it. Not to gross you out, but you are probably getting less "bug parts" smoking bud that had spider mites than when you eat breakfast cereal.
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keep in mind 209 is a preventative measure, it doenst kill them it actually allows your plant to take up rosmeric acid and form a liquid barrier of this acid around the cell walls in the plant, when a bug bites it they taste the rosemary plant which they hate so they stop eating and move on, may take a few chomps before they realize the whole plant is aweful tasting and they either move on to an untreated plant or die of starvation. defently not something to treat the problem however i used it when i had a thripe problem and after a month of 209 to all my plants and now growing a few new plants without 209 iv seen nothing come back.
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No! Do not throw them out! There is no reason to do that.
You want SNS 217 Mite Killer. Rosemary extract that can be used until the day of harvest. 2x in one week should beat them down enough to get you through harvest.
Damage won't go away on the leaves obviously, but as long as you're feeding the plants too you'll still take a good harvest. And a lot of the damage you're seeing may not be because of mites, it might be from the Azamax, which if you've been using already on the proper schedule, should have them mostly beat down already.
You want SNS 217 Mite Killer. Rosemary extract that can be used until the day of harvest. 2x in one week should beat them down enough to get you through harvest.
Damage won't go away on the leaves obviously, but as long as you're feeding the plants too you'll still take a good harvest. And a lot of the damage you're seeing may not be because of mites, it might be from the Azamax, which if you've been using already on the proper schedule, should have them mostly beat down already.
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Don't throw them out. However, I wouldn't treat them with anything. Even if something is safe to use up to the day of harvest doesn't mean that you want it on your plants. Rosemary has a nasty taste that you will, IMO, be able to taste on your buds.
If you are in a place that is arid and your buds are not really dense, you can probably give your plants a shower and wash a bunch of the little critters off. However, mites like living plants to feed off of. When you chop most of them will depart. And like I said, we ingest hundreds (if not thousands) of bug parts (and other nasty things) everyday. The few spider mites that may remain in the bud is insignificant.
If you are in a place that is arid and your buds are not really dense, you can probably give your plants a shower and wash a bunch of the little critters off. However, mites like living plants to feed off of. When you chop most of them will depart. And like I said, we ingest hundreds (if not thousands) of bug parts (and other nasty things) everyday. The few spider mites that may remain in the bud is insignificant.
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IF you can move them. Take them into the shower and use as cold a water as you can to wash off all webs. Spray all leaves of the plant heavy with the cold water and the bud lightly so as to not break off many trichs , IF you have a garden sprayer fill it with ice and water and use it.
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I like the way THG thinks. and i am sure she is right.
I got mites late in harvest on one grow.. and kept thinking what to do, what to do...
Then i remembered the reason i started to grow in the 1st place..
Because of commercial weed being sprayed with bug killer (raid, etc.)
coming acrossed the boarder in gas tanks etc etc..
i figured a few mites aren't going to be near as bad as that stuff i had been smoking for several decades....
I got mites late in harvest on one grow.. and kept thinking what to do, what to do...
Then i remembered the reason i started to grow in the 1st place..
Because of commercial weed being sprayed with bug killer (raid, etc.)
coming acrossed the boarder in gas tanks etc etc..
i figured a few mites aren't going to be near as bad as that stuff i had been smoking for several decades....
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Taste is fleeting, it's the affects of the smoke that matter.
I've used the SNS 217 many times, up to the last week of harvest, and I've never tasted the rosemary. I've used Dawn and water through the last week too, never tasted soap.
Mites hate humidity, spraying the underside of the leaves with just water can slow them down too, but you have to spray every day. Ozzy's tip to wash off the webbing, if you're at that point, is a good one.
I've used the SNS 217 many times, up to the last week of harvest, and I've never tasted the rosemary. I've used Dawn and water through the last week too, never tasted soap.
Mites hate humidity, spraying the underside of the leaves with just water can slow them down too, but you have to spray every day. Ozzy's tip to wash off the webbing, if you're at that point, is a good one.
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I have an indoor tent garden with just little 1" plants (1st time). I don't garden outdoors or visit anyone else who is gardening.
Where the hell do these mites come from, and should I be concerned?
Where the hell do these mites come from, and should I be concerned?
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FNG mites are in nature if you cut you grass you should not bring those cloths into the area of the house your grow tent is on. Always take a shower to wash off any bugs you might have brung in on your body. If you have a cat or dog you have a greater chance of getting bugs(mites,thrips,fungus flies, etc)
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Mites ride on your clothes, your animals, your grocery bags, wherever they can hitch a ride. Their favorite outdoor living space is natural ferns and greenery. All you have to do is bump into someone who has them on their clothes, one hitches a ride, crawls off you to your plants, and you have an infestation. They reproduce asexually, so it only takes one.
All crops have their own pests,spider mites are the most common found in grow rooms. People act like they're at the same level as an STD, but there wouldn't be a million products out there to kill them if they weren't a very common problem.
Keeping others out of your grow is always a good idea. Not bringing in clones from other grows is another way to help prevent. You can use a systemic product, like the 209 as a preventative.
You know you have them when you see little white dots on your leaves. If you treat at the first sign of damage you're more than able to control and eradicate.
All crops have their own pests,spider mites are the most common found in grow rooms. People act like they're at the same level as an STD, but there wouldn't be a million products out there to kill them if they weren't a very common problem.
Keeping others out of your grow is always a good idea. Not bringing in clones from other grows is another way to help prevent. You can use a systemic product, like the 209 as a preventative.
You know you have them when you see little white dots on your leaves. If you treat at the first sign of damage you're more than able to control and eradicate.
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You know what i don't understand is I have had them a few times indoors and not one outside all year.... Weird.
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Thats because in nature the SM's natural enemy eat them and keep them in check. When they get inside and none of the predators are there, their population explodes into a mass that overtakes the plants.
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I don't know that I would call spider mites a mistake--it is more one of those things that just happen. I'm sure that you are going to still have a nice harvest.
I do like Ozzy mentioned if I get mites late in flowering. I live in an arid climate and can put them in the shower for a nice icy cold shower.
I do like Ozzy mentioned if I get mites late in flowering. I live in an arid climate and can put them in the shower for a nice icy cold shower.
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I use the sns as well as this other product Liquid Lady Bug
it suffocates them and causes them and eggs to drip off, recommended use is 2 applications 1 one day one the next and then in a week if u still see issues
i bought it this time in concentrate makes 1 gal which is 100$ the conc. was like 35 i think
also you can cut up a sponge in strips soak in it and then u loosely wrap the stalk with one and zip tie it so any that may live thru the drip off will not make it bak up from the ground as they travel via stems
You use it with no fans on it evaporates in 5 mins even if u really soak them and it's organic safe to use etc etc and u get immediate results the sns does great but it takes a bit of a toll on the plants as u are trying to get them to saok it up thru roots and is more a preventative then an all out bomb
lastly i remember in my thread dr. fever i think it was said a burst of co2 will kill all but i went with the LLB and am very happy with it
it suffocates them and causes them and eggs to drip off, recommended use is 2 applications 1 one day one the next and then in a week if u still see issues
i bought it this time in concentrate makes 1 gal which is 100$ the conc. was like 35 i think
also you can cut up a sponge in strips soak in it and then u loosely wrap the stalk with one and zip tie it so any that may live thru the drip off will not make it bak up from the ground as they travel via stems
You use it with no fans on it evaporates in 5 mins even if u really soak them and it's organic safe to use etc etc and u get immediate results the sns does great but it takes a bit of a toll on the plants as u are trying to get them to saok it up thru roots and is more a preventative then an all out bomb
lastly i remember in my thread dr. fever i think it was said a burst of co2 will kill all but i went with the LLB and am very happy with it
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CO2 will kill the little beasties, but you have to hit them with a lot of it. I don't run CO2, so I don't know the specifics.
I personally have never had Liquid Lady Bug work for me on mites. If I get an infestation, I pretty much need to use Forbid, Avid, or Floramite to get rid of them. After that something like SNS 209 will keep tghem gone, but will not eradicate them.
I personally have never had Liquid Lady Bug work for me on mites. If I get an infestation, I pretty much need to use Forbid, Avid, or Floramite to get rid of them. After that something like SNS 209 will keep tghem gone, but will not eradicate them.
