Sheesh!

[clever_intuition]

I wonder how many earth abiding topics we can come up with that will spark our minds based on this one post?

 

[Mutt]

I wonder how many earth abiding topics we can come up with that will spark our minds based on this one post?

here is a cool theory on birds and magnetic poles...which if the poles reverse like clever said...would the birds fly north for winter and south for summer???? that would be odd. and would duck season change at all???? hehehehehe thats two ? if ya think about it. it would be the same time but just going in the opposite direction wouldn't it?

Magnetic map theory
A second theory suggests that birds use the earth's magnetic field to obtain at least a partial map of its position. The earth's magnetic field becomes stronger as you travel away from the equator and toward the poles. In theory, a bird might be able to estimate its latitude based on the strength of the magnetic field. While the change in strength is very small from one location to the next, there is some indication that homing pigeons have the sensitivity to detect even tiny changes in the strength of the magnetic field. Even if true, this would provide only a limited indication of the bird's latitude.

Link= http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/studying/migration/navigation

 

[ktownlegend]

all i gotta say is Tesla, theres enough theories tied up with that name by itself to complicate any stoner conversation.

 

[walter]

so why do birds fly south for the winter?and how do they know and why do they know where to go?

 

[Mutt]

all i gotta say is Tesla, theres enough theories tied up with that name by itself to complicate any stoner conversation.

Nikoli or the band?

so why do birds fly south for the winter?and how do they know and why do they know where to go?

read that link...some say food...some say magnetics...bunch of theories around that one...or maybe "just because mom nature tells em". but what they did to the carrier pigeons was pretty fekked up IMHO. locked em up in a box through a crap load of white noise at em and dropped em off to see what happens is a pretty raw thing to anything or anyone...don't worry not a PITA (or is it PETA can't remember ...) fan here (thats not the PITA abbrev your thinkin of) but still a raw deal for the birds. but they still found ther way home...now thas a trip. So much for proven man right on that one

 

[walter]

so why do birds fly south for the winter?and how do they know and why do they know where to go?

Answer:
Not all birds fly South for the Winter, and some other animals also migrate, including butterflies and some fish. Most know it is time to start their journey because the amount of sunlight each day starts to decrease (find out why).Some have built in clocks that tell them it is time to leave, much like people have an internal clock that tells us when it's time to sleep. Scientists aren't sure how birds know they're going the right way,but some of the suggestions are that they navigate by the stars or the sun, that they learn the way from their parents, or that birds can use the earth's magnetic field to line themselves up.

 

[the_riz]

"Liebig used the image of a barrel—now called Liebig's barrel—to explain his law. Just as the capacity of a barrel with staves of unequal length is limited by the shortest stave, so a plant's growth is limited by the nutrient in shortest supply."

I love this analogy. It sums up life when you think about it, both the mental and the physical.

Sorry mutt im not a fast reader.. very interesting, however i discount the soccar ball universe theory on account of it just being too wrong. A theory ive always considered extremely plausable, only problem is every theory of the universe and its size / shape all end in the same two questions.

Where does it end, and whats on the other side.

Ive always thought a universe within a universe was always a strong theory because of the signs throughout life. as to quote Orson Wells "the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water" which we could very well be. Imagine if we were populating part of the sub atomic make up of a larger scale existance.

I ask myself, why cant the human brain even begin to comprehend what might be beyond space. It starts with contemplating what "the edge" would be like, which developes into wondering what is beyond "the edge".. the void, what is it? and ends with an almost dark epifeny (spellcheck) like sensation, where for a split second you could have sworn you knew exactly what its like..

And i guess all this comes down to yet another possible primal instinct of being terrified of death and everything that goes with it. Nothingness.

Hard to get your head around huh

 

[Mutt]

I know I threw a lot at ya on the links man.....
but you just brought up a whole nest of things in me.
Death...well thats for a PM not on the public side....but I truly am not scared...but not in any hurry either.

but universally speaking...I don't buy into the whole "closed theory myself" either. unless you look at einsteins closed theory which is infinite by definition but appears closed to his writings (complex mind there). ..well you look at everything as a whole and it takes the shape of an ellipse. by def. the ellipse (bout to go on a very stoner tangent here man.....if I'm stupid let me know.

1. A plane curve, especially:
   1. A conic section whose plane is not parallel to the axis, base, or generatrix of the intersected cone.
   2. The locus of points for which the sum of the distances from each point to two fixed points is equal

"two fixed points is equal"
hhhmmmm. so that in my stoner layman mind is saying that two spots in the universe could mathmatically be equal in every way. So would that possibly mean that there is an identical earth being directly opposite at the same points in time due to the elliptical pattern of the universe???
Yep...gettin baked here man....I'll prolly get embarrssed in the AM when I re-read this....but still had to post.

 

[ktownlegend]

will u two jsut speak in english, nah im just kidding u guys are full of all kinds of useful and useless info. lol

 

[Mutt]

useless info.

I'm a VAST wealth of that right there.

 

[ktownlegend]

I'm a VAST wealth of that right there.

vast wealth? im not sure wealth is what i'd call it.

 

[Mutt]

vast wealth? im not sure wealth is what i'd call it.

:stoned::rofl:

 

[the_riz]

lmao.. ok one more doobie before bed lol

 

[the_riz]

hhhmmmm. so that in my stoner layman mind is saying that two spots in the universe could mathmatically be equal in every way. So would that possibly mean that there is an identical earth being directly opposite at the same points in time due to the elliptical pattern of the universe???

Now were onto something

Does this mean that in the very center of the elliptical universe you could potentially not cross? I mean think if it as an identical identical universe, if you ever managed to take a ship to a point in space to cross over into the opposite side, surely there would be a ship coming the other way to collide with? no matter where you crossed?

or are you taling about just identical in placement. Life and people aside

 

[MrPuffAlot]

interesting..

If you think thats interesting..

Watch the PBS special on on String Theory, Quantum theory and the 5th
Diminsion. In a nut shell.. There are infinite number of all of us, all living
in different dimensions of life, where each and every possible scenerio
is played out differently in infinite ways. We are merely seperated by
by our mass going in and out of the different dimensions in time.
It is rather mind numbing when you really think about it.

It was/maybe the answer of Einsteins ultimate theory, which he never
found an answer to.

 

[Mutt]

crap first time that happened....didn't know who to quote. so gonna throw in my two cents and let u guys figure it out.
Riz
if by the rule ellipse it would be a direct (non mirrored) image of one ownselves so thus would colide IMHO. but what we consider logic and what is truth are def. 2 speprate things.
MrPuffalot
I could see that too...except in my own stoned mind which isn't workin at its "peak" potential :huh: if talking different dimensions...ooooh never mind....my mind went off on a lot of tangents on that one....actully felt a sharp pain on that one.

 

[the_riz]

well i seem to have lost the ability to get my head around anything today lol. I wonder why?

Ive taken the day off to tidy the place up a bit, i just started it with a bowl of cereal, a cup of coffee and a jay and i still cant seem to get my head around the 5th dimension mr puff.

We are merely seperated by
by our mass going in and out of the different dimensions in time.

deep!

 

[DLtoker]

December 3, 1973... Just for a laugh


And check out this book I picked up last night.