Thanks Zip...These are actually not autos...these are my beans from seed bay...real good genetics...I hve a cpl autos in my veg tent with the clones...that's something you cld try. Do you hve a veg tent running? If so just make a spot for one plant and grow an auto in there...that's what i love about them. I hve 2 more Auto White Dwarfs going in my veg tent now...they love 18/6...