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I just got my order from DrChronic and it came to east coast USA in 6 days, after I ordered last Friday late at night! I haven't germed yet, but will get back with that when I start these!
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I would not compromise security or the flow of beans by discussing this thread. Tho new to this forum I am not new to growing forums or for that matter growing in general.Life is about taking risks. Do it or don't. I have gotten seeds and have always been happy with the lone bank that I use. Using a debit card is only a bad thing after the fact. They know of your grow op and are currently going to bust you. they only are using your bank records for proof against you once someone you know has ratted you out. Take Care and remember, if it's not broke, don't fix it, aka "FIRST RULE OF FIGHTCLUB, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT FIGHTCLUB!!!" Take Care.
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I didnt start this thread asking what kind of stealth methods the distributor uses. If I did, I would understand the point of your post. I was merely asking if I would be less likely to receive my order if I had it sent WITH the breeder pack. Only like one post in this entire thread actually addressed the concern brought I up.
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I ordered on Sept 9th, got the USA today, 9/12.
Nirvana took 2 months, but I got them.
Attitude took 1 month and customs got them.
DR CHRONIC RULES!
Nirvana took 2 months, but I got them.
Attitude took 1 month and customs got them.
DR CHRONIC RULES!
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420usagrow
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I ordered from Doc last week, and I just placed two orders (one with Attitude for 10 fem Lowlife AK 47, 5 Paradise Seeds fem White Berry, 5 fem Greenhouse Lemon Skunk seeds + 10 freeebies). And I ordered from Dope-seeds 5 fem Lowlife White Russian seeds. I should get these sometime this week. I will have seeds for many grows and will be cloning and using the genetics to grow some kind bud!!
My order from Doc (5 fem Seedism BLZ Bud seeds, 5 fem Royal Queen White Widow seeds) came in 5 days. I am curious about where you are located as I have read many posts of people getting their seeds nabbed in the midwest USA, more specifically, the Port of Chicago. I had one order in the past 2 years that didn't make it through customs. It was from Holland and looked so obvious to me and the confiscation notice was from the Port of Chicago. That is why I started ordering from the Attitude because I figured it wasn't a hotbed for LEO like Amsterdam! I have ordered over 10 times in 18 months and have had to wait 6 days for delivery at the longest. Well, good luck on your grows! 420usagrow
My order from Doc (5 fem Seedism BLZ Bud seeds, 5 fem Royal Queen White Widow seeds) came in 5 days. I am curious about where you are located as I have read many posts of people getting their seeds nabbed in the midwest USA, more specifically, the Port of Chicago. I had one order in the past 2 years that didn't make it through customs. It was from Holland and looked so obvious to me and the confiscation notice was from the Port of Chicago. That is why I started ordering from the Attitude because I figured it wasn't a hotbed for LEO like Amsterdam! I have ordered over 10 times in 18 months and have had to wait 6 days for delivery at the longest. Well, good luck on your grows! 420usagrow
Thank you greeneyes. Alright I am here to answer all of your questions on the Doc. I will make the sacrafice of having a full private message box in order to be able to continue business with the DOC. That's right please PM people, rather than post all over these boards for sources. If anyone does not get the program let me help out and give you some help so that we are not phisically taking a pack of seeds and slapping the FED's faces with it so hard their noses bleed. The following information is for entertainment purposes and I am in no way affiliated with Dr. chronic. I do not condone any illegal activities.
- I have used the Doc for years. I am in the U.S.A.
- The doc started the no shipping to U.S.A about a year ago because seeds to the U.S.A are not legal.
- You may pay for your order in U.S. dollars
- Seeds are legal in the U.K for souveniers only and are not for growing devil weed.
- Mark Emery once sold seeds by mail to the U.S.A. If he is extradicted to the U.S he will be sentanced to life in prison and if it werent for the fact that the canadians wouldnt let it happen he would receive the death penalty.
- DR. Chronics forum site is HG420. He has handed it over to his friend/partner muffinman/FET to run for him so he can focus on slanging souviniers.
- The site has been down for maintanance for about a month but is supposed to be up and running soon.
- The Doc is the coolest most straight up guy in the business in a business that is filled with seedy people parden the pun.
- The docs greatest downfall is communication. For some reason he just doesnt like to answer his emals and never his PM's. I know that communication is very important and if he could fix this issue I think it would eliminate 80% of complaints?issues with customers ranting on boards because they think they have been scammed.
- Doc is a seedbank. If your seeds dont pop there are many people to blame but none of them are the DOC.
- If your plants are too short/tall, sick, hermi or have powdery mildew blame the person in the mirror or the breeder because the doc didnt come into your garden and kill your plants, you did.
- Never discuss shipping methods or stealth shipping packaging openly on public boards.
- The Doc sends freebies when you order 3 packs of seeds (10 or more) and sometimes for his own work and sometimes for the hell of it. You usually must ask.
- A member of HG420 with 50 posts or more qualifies for free seeds with order however is not guarenteed also untill recently you could mention your forum name and get 10% off the total order.
- Credit cards are accepted so is cash or money orders.
- Credit cards in my opinion is the way to go as long as you use a disposable/gift card with not alot of money remaining on the card.
- The British post is notorious for opening mail and stealing cash/money orders not to mention the fact that there is more of a security risk sending your info through the posts hands.
- Some credit/bank/check cards do not work even if you were to call doc internationaly and give him the number rather then use the site. This is usualy a bank/check card especially from credit unions because some financial institutions have a security number (not the 3#'s on back of the card) that must be given for international internet purchases. You can however call your financial institution ahead of time and get this code from them and then pass it on to him through a side note on the websit or you can call and place your order over the phone.
- Due to President Bush's eagerness to destroy the constitution, The Patriot act allows the NSA, Homeland Security and the F.B.I to not only monitor but record citizens conversations into the largest digital database known to ever exhist. It has been estimated that 1 in 5 domestic calls and 4 out of 5 international calls are recorded and stored for eternity. Emails and texts are also recorded.
- Seeds along with many other things are confiscated in the mail every day and although wal-mart will bend over and listen to your gripes or exchange a three year old broken fishing pole with no receipt that was purchased at kmart, a grey area business can only be held accountable so far. The buyer has to realize that he/she is taking a chance by making the purchase and if the package gets snagged then you should be happy you didnt go to jail.
- I have never had a seed pack order confiscated (knock on wood).
- If your order enters the U.S. customs through chicago I reccomend not ordering or to have it shipped to a friend that lives in a different region. I would say that there is about a 35% chance it will be taken.
- When customs seizes my seedpack will the LEO break my door down? Maybe. Chances are you will just receive a letter asking you to call customs if you feel that you should be entitled to your illegal, smuggled through the federal postal office possibly internationaly or accross state borders. Don't call the number.
- Is it possible that customs intercepted my package and has now logged my info and the info /description of the orgin of the package? Yes.
-is it possible that customs intercepted my package but didnt send a letter? Yes.
- Why would they do that? There are a couple reasons as of lately and the number one reason they are currently doing it is because they have realized that many of the illegal/grey area mail order businesses to keep their customers happy will remail at least partially the order that was confiscated. Most places can't go by the faceless customers word so they ask for a seizure letter proving it. The best way in all honesty to combat this and throw a wrench into the transactions is to not provide a receipt so they have been doing away with this protocal or not.
- Another practice is to open the package and document the illegal items and to just let the packages go through to build a future case. So six months later and several packages later if they decide to kick your door down when you go to court and say that this is a one time thing they have records of your multiple orders and now look into slapping you with conspiracy and or distribution. Not to mention it makes getting a warrant so much easier for them when they have multiple records.
- I would say that by keeping orders small and or having larger orders broken up you are greatly lessening the chances of a lengthy and expensive investigation.
- Are mailing addresses "Flagged". Yes. I dont know what percentage but it is certainly done. If you receive a letter from customs just assume that it has been flagged and dont use the addy for another order and certainly nevvvvvvvvvvvver use the address of your grow (oops I mean where you store your souviners).
Well in closing I would just like to say that I am in no way affiliated with Dr. Chronic and that I just thought it necessary to post this to clear up any final questions with ordering so that we can stop the relentless same questions over and over on these public boards. Look I know that if any government agencies want to find out seed seller operating procedures they can do it but for god's sake please dont make it easy for them. In the future when you see that a vender is posting or advertising in magazines that they dont ship to us yankees then use your head people and ask a board moderator or a long time member in a PM. Please understand that the vendors are then asking for your help on keeping things quiet as possible. Did Mark Emery do this? No, and look at the trouble he is in. Marc was pretty much in your face about what he did and take it from me that government agencies hate it when you spit in their face and dare them to do something. Let me give you one more example, about 10 years ago if you went to a board and discussed body building you could go down the posts and within ten minutes you would have a number of mail order sources to purchase anabolic steroids. This isnt the case anymore however, in fact over the last few years not only did the LEO's go through the boards and shut down all the domestic suppliers freely advertising their illegal supplements but the U.S. of A decided to show the world the size of it's c*ck and went into foreign countries like Mexico and shut down a dozen or so of the largest manufacturers in the world. You maybe wondering how we can go into a foreign third world country where it is actually legal to take or make anabolic steroids and extradict it's citizens and seize all their assets. It happened because these companies were freely advertising products that were illegal in the United States to the United States. Go check out the bodybuilding/steroid boards now and see if you see people talking about sources. It took alot of people to go behind bars for a while for people to figure it out. The first rule of fight club again?
- I have used the Doc for years. I am in the U.S.A.
- The doc started the no shipping to U.S.A about a year ago because seeds to the U.S.A are not legal.
- You may pay for your order in U.S. dollars
- Seeds are legal in the U.K for souveniers only and are not for growing devil weed.
- Mark Emery once sold seeds by mail to the U.S.A. If he is extradicted to the U.S he will be sentanced to life in prison and if it werent for the fact that the canadians wouldnt let it happen he would receive the death penalty.
- DR. Chronics forum site is HG420. He has handed it over to his friend/partner muffinman/FET to run for him so he can focus on slanging souviniers.
- The site has been down for maintanance for about a month but is supposed to be up and running soon.
- The Doc is the coolest most straight up guy in the business in a business that is filled with seedy people parden the pun.
- The docs greatest downfall is communication. For some reason he just doesnt like to answer his emals and never his PM's. I know that communication is very important and if he could fix this issue I think it would eliminate 80% of complaints?issues with customers ranting on boards because they think they have been scammed.
- Doc is a seedbank. If your seeds dont pop there are many people to blame but none of them are the DOC.
- If your plants are too short/tall, sick, hermi or have powdery mildew blame the person in the mirror or the breeder because the doc didnt come into your garden and kill your plants, you did.
- Never discuss shipping methods or stealth shipping packaging openly on public boards.
- The Doc sends freebies when you order 3 packs of seeds (10 or more) and sometimes for his own work and sometimes for the hell of it. You usually must ask.
- A member of HG420 with 50 posts or more qualifies for free seeds with order however is not guarenteed also untill recently you could mention your forum name and get 10% off the total order.
- Credit cards are accepted so is cash or money orders.
- Credit cards in my opinion is the way to go as long as you use a disposable/gift card with not alot of money remaining on the card.
- The British post is notorious for opening mail and stealing cash/money orders not to mention the fact that there is more of a security risk sending your info through the posts hands.
- Some credit/bank/check cards do not work even if you were to call doc internationaly and give him the number rather then use the site. This is usualy a bank/check card especially from credit unions because some financial institutions have a security number (not the 3#'s on back of the card) that must be given for international internet purchases. You can however call your financial institution ahead of time and get this code from them and then pass it on to him through a side note on the websit or you can call and place your order over the phone.
- Due to President Bush's eagerness to destroy the constitution, The Patriot act allows the NSA, Homeland Security and the F.B.I to not only monitor but record citizens conversations into the largest digital database known to ever exhist. It has been estimated that 1 in 5 domestic calls and 4 out of 5 international calls are recorded and stored for eternity. Emails and texts are also recorded.
- Seeds along with many other things are confiscated in the mail every day and although wal-mart will bend over and listen to your gripes or exchange a three year old broken fishing pole with no receipt that was purchased at kmart, a grey area business can only be held accountable so far. The buyer has to realize that he/she is taking a chance by making the purchase and if the package gets snagged then you should be happy you didnt go to jail.
- I have never had a seed pack order confiscated (knock on wood).
- If your order enters the U.S. customs through chicago I reccomend not ordering or to have it shipped to a friend that lives in a different region. I would say that there is about a 35% chance it will be taken.
- When customs seizes my seedpack will the LEO break my door down? Maybe. Chances are you will just receive a letter asking you to call customs if you feel that you should be entitled to your illegal, smuggled through the federal postal office possibly internationaly or accross state borders. Don't call the number.
- Is it possible that customs intercepted my package and has now logged my info and the info /description of the orgin of the package? Yes.
-is it possible that customs intercepted my package but didnt send a letter? Yes.
- Why would they do that? There are a couple reasons as of lately and the number one reason they are currently doing it is because they have realized that many of the illegal/grey area mail order businesses to keep their customers happy will remail at least partially the order that was confiscated. Most places can't go by the faceless customers word so they ask for a seizure letter proving it. The best way in all honesty to combat this and throw a wrench into the transactions is to not provide a receipt so they have been doing away with this protocal or not.
- Another practice is to open the package and document the illegal items and to just let the packages go through to build a future case. So six months later and several packages later if they decide to kick your door down when you go to court and say that this is a one time thing they have records of your multiple orders and now look into slapping you with conspiracy and or distribution. Not to mention it makes getting a warrant so much easier for them when they have multiple records.
- I would say that by keeping orders small and or having larger orders broken up you are greatly lessening the chances of a lengthy and expensive investigation.
- Are mailing addresses "Flagged". Yes. I dont know what percentage but it is certainly done. If you receive a letter from customs just assume that it has been flagged and dont use the addy for another order and certainly nevvvvvvvvvvvver use the address of your grow (oops I mean where you store your souviners).
Well in closing I would just like to say that I am in no way affiliated with Dr. Chronic and that I just thought it necessary to post this to clear up any final questions with ordering so that we can stop the relentless same questions over and over on these public boards. Look I know that if any government agencies want to find out seed seller operating procedures they can do it but for god's sake please dont make it easy for them. In the future when you see that a vender is posting or advertising in magazines that they dont ship to us yankees then use your head people and ask a board moderator or a long time member in a PM. Please understand that the vendors are then asking for your help on keeping things quiet as possible. Did Mark Emery do this? No, and look at the trouble he is in. Marc was pretty much in your face about what he did and take it from me that government agencies hate it when you spit in their face and dare them to do something. Let me give you one more example, about 10 years ago if you went to a board and discussed body building you could go down the posts and within ten minutes you would have a number of mail order sources to purchase anabolic steroids. This isnt the case anymore however, in fact over the last few years not only did the LEO's go through the boards and shut down all the domestic suppliers freely advertising their illegal supplements but the U.S. of A decided to show the world the size of it's c*ck and went into foreign countries like Mexico and shut down a dozen or so of the largest manufacturers in the world. You maybe wondering how we can go into a foreign third world country where it is actually legal to take or make anabolic steroids and extradict it's citizens and seize all their assets. It happened because these companies were freely advertising products that were illegal in the United States to the United States. Go check out the bodybuilding/steroid boards now and see if you see people talking about sources. It took alot of people to go behind bars for a while for people to figure it out. The first rule of fight club again?
New_2_Chronic
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since your giving Legal Advice Id likie to know where you got your law degree from?
This whole thread is filled with misinfoirmation, check your sources before writing such doo doo....
This is a bunch of worthless information with undecalred sources.... Maybe you should put a disclaimer up that this is all YOUR OPINION and no factual representations are made....
This whole thread is filled with misinfoirmation, check your sources before writing such doo doo....
This is a bunch of worthless information with undecalred sources.... Maybe you should put a disclaimer up that this is all YOUR OPINION and no factual representations are made....
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Honestly N2C this person has given ALOT of good advice.
His opinion or not... i wouldn't write it off as DOO DOO man.
This person has given a ton of accurate info on the doc man. I wouldn't pass it off as ** bro.
Good post people..
His opinion or not... i wouldn't write it off as DOO DOO man.
This person has given a ton of accurate info on the doc man. I wouldn't pass it off as ** bro.
Good post people..
N2C I am sorry that you feel that I have tried to steer anyone wrong. I am not at liberty to reveal any sources and I feel that you should do what you think is best. There are many faceless people on these forums with many opinions and if you feel that i am untruthfull then you are certainly entitled to disregard my comments. I have no reason to state anything that is false.
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Why use a seedbank that has a thread like this? There are plenty of others.
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I got my Blueberry seeds from the Doc today, well I found them on my desk today , think theve been here a couple days.
Doc 2-0 WW and now BB
Oh yea, I live in US so he still ships here.
Look for Blueberry coming to a grow journal near you!
Doc 2-0 WW and now BB
Oh yea, I live in US so he still ships here.
Look for Blueberry coming to a grow journal near you!
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I collect the breeder packaging. I have packs from SSSC, The Seed Bank, The Brothers Grimm, the california based Sacred Seeds. I dig it.
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GrowRebel said:I got some nirvana white widow from chronic in june ... got the seeds in 8 days used a debit card ... unfortunately ... the seeds product sick plants ... out of 6 ... 3 popped up ... almost a month old and still looking like seedlings... one hasn't gotten any leaves other than the seed leaves ... chronic won't back the product:ignore: ... so I'm out of luck ... I'd rather have good seeds than, original breeder pack ... won't buy from him again ... that's for sure ... but that's just me ... :fid:
I bought my seeds from .nl but I have the same problem - 3 weeks old and still looking like seedlings! It must be the seeds, I suppose. I know they're getting enough light...
Does everyone think they'll turn into decent plants anyway, eventually?
Coincidentally, 2 of them are white widow. The 3rd is blueberry.
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breeder packaging +1
GH breeder packaging looks good.
GH breeder packaging looks good.
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