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leafminer

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I think I have painted myself into a corner. It is beginning to look as if all the seed I created with the backbreed experiment is female. I haven't had a single male plant off either the F1 or the F2 hybrids. Both hybrids had same male parent, a true-breeding male sativa that produced female colas too.
If so it means that I have no way of producing more seed. :confused:
 
If all the seeds were F1 and female,how could you have an F2 population?
 
Rockster said:
If all the seeds were F1 and female,how could you have an F2 population?

It didn't really occur to me at the time, that i was getting only females from the F1s. Actually I was quite pleased at my luck.
I pollinated the F1s with the same male hermie I used to pollinate the original female indica.
 
Im not completly up to speed on breeding, but why would you breed a hermie?
 
thats how feminized seed is made ( the short version at least)
 
I can see the problem but just thought i'd say well done :)
You have kinda just backed up the credability a little of femenized seeds too.
Goes to show that it doesn't neseseraly mean hermies breed hermies ;)
 
I thought feminized seeds were made by chemically inducing a hermie on a plant, I thought it was bad practice to breed a naturally occuring hermie... if not maybe I should give it a shot one day
 
MindzEye said:
I thought feminized seeds were made by chemically inducing a hermie on a plant, I thought it was bad practice to breed a naturally occuring hermie... if not maybe I should give it a shot one day

IMO, it IS a bad practice.
 
I'm trying to bring back a legendary strain. It has pretty obviously been feral for quite a while now because it is mentioned in one of those books of famous strains, from a while back. The Aurora line I have is very stable and never herms or anything so I tried breeding to it and then back. You can find the history of all this in the Backbreed Experiment thread over in breeding.

But what Umbra said makes a lot of sense now. I mean, this is my fault. Through lack of knowledge of what Umbra noted, I failed to predict that both the F1 and F2 must be all fem seeds.

Um.. consequences.. the immediate one is negative. I have no male indicas only my clone line. I have a good stock of F2 and rather less of the F1 hybrids. All fem. So I am without a single male and the pollen I have is out of date and even if it was any use I would only be making more fem seed.

On the plus side, these types are very useful to me because the F1 is almost as potent as the Aurora and has a good amount of sativa mindgames to it. It's nice to know any seed I put in comes up fem. And I can still have some fun testing the F2 which is just beginning to flower. They're useful, zone wise, too; the F2s vegged very fast - to 2 feet - in 2 weeks then started to flower (13.5 hour day)
But to make any new seed, I will need first to buy some. A pure sativa I think.
Oh BTW - I've grown 5 of the F1 fems so far and they have been very vigorous and no herms. And a good blast!
 
ok-so thats what u meant on my male hermie thread....makes sense now. not what u were goin for, but i'll take femd seed as a bump in the road any day!
 

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