Tech, I'm sorry your experience was less than optimal. To just blindly throw out a statement like "my opinions is all from experience..Not just internet medical board knowledge" sounds to me like you think I'm not very educated on LED's nor the history of the discussion's on this board or the fall out it has caused over the years. So let me be clear, you don't know me nor my history so don't make blind assumptions that can make you look silly. Your comments were not helpful, you didn't offer a solution that fits that persons wallet, so what you did was in effect say if you cant afford so and so then your wasting your money. Not very nice when that may very well be all that person can afford. You need to take into account this is not a private site, this is a public site where your going to encounter growers from all around the world with different skill levels and incomes. When you start laying out the money you get to make those calls. Till then I really would just suggest you stick to offering your experiences, and if asked for advice then further the conversation. You didn't communicate well through your post, which is why I responded. Also me and Rose are very good friends, so if you think I'm unaware then you are confused. Tech I would rather make a friend not an enemy. Happy growing. Peace