ty for the welcome,and ty for the reply,i was just worried about running a lower wattage in the 250 housing,i have been reading about them this afternoon,i guess the less watts is pretty standard,35 bucks for the plantmax,its worth a shot,if not i'll throw the mh bulb back in there until i can buy an hps setup,i could'nt turn down the deal,2 security wallpacks,brand new in the box,250's with bulbs included...for 70 bucks,plus he threw in an extra bulb for each