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[Keef]

They turn me loose --I could rock some HPS !-- Hey the last of the last batch have pretty much come --I got some orphan seed I think I'll plant for kicks !--I got a few accidental from my pink line Widow when I bred Trips to the T.E. -- Got 1- Skunk #1--1 -Nordle--and I got 3 Head Trip seed left from Umbra --I think I'll plant them all and figure it out later !---Seems to be the way I function --Jump in --Then learn to swim !-- I can't always swim !
I do need to get an extract an start mess around with this Liquid Weed formula ! Probably end up camping on the beach and blasting butane all night to get the extract !--Mane I hate that !--I just can't run like I used to !-- Is it 4:20 somewhere?

 

[Rosebud]

Yes Kraven, i followed pj's direction for the pruning,,,.. I hope you rock it out.

Great news today I hit the bullseye with the ball with my left arm. Couldn't do that til today. I think it is the piano. I am going to break those dogs of that, i promise...

 

[ness]

I am going to transplant my babies today, as soon as tj get back with a spray bottles. The roots are starting to circle in solo cups. Got to make the roots happy. Putting them in 5 gal flower pots. My are doing well. They still have there first leaf, not veg yet. Thank You, OFC for your help when I needed it.

 

[ness]

Rose, I am happy your session when well. Congrats.

 

[Keef]

Nes they babies -it's a long time before harvest !
Yes Rose the piano even if U have lock the dogs out !-- The sooner U teach that hand the faster your brain will rewire the connection between hand and brain !---

 

[Keef]

D.D. got some predatory nematodes --Of course it would have no directions for aero !--They done pissed her off I would suggest if the bugs want to live they better get up out our grow room !

 

[ness]

Isn't it 8 week or 60 days until they are ready harvest. I'm talking about, when the seeds pops out of the dirt that is were I am counting the days from. Please, tell me if this is Right or not.

 

[Kraven]

Yes Kraven, i followed pj's direction for the pruning,,,.. I hope you rock it out.

Great news today I hit the bullseye with the ball with my left arm. Couldn't do that til today. I think it is the piano. I am going to break those dogs of that, i promise...

Rose I never once mentioned PJ, why or how in the world did he get in this conversation?

I was just trying to be thorough in my answer, I appreciate your opinion and your experience. My decision to go to LED was made about 2 years ago and frankly has nothing to do with anyone's opinions other than my own. I have specific heat concerns and knew when I upgraded in the future I wanted to run quality LED's. I have just patiently been waiting for what I considered quality to meet what I considered an acceptable price point. I missed the whole PJ thingy here and tbh I have tried to avoid it since I do not care for drama.

I need to know if me running LED's is gonna present some sort of a problem with anyone here on the site? Seems since I have mentioned it I have gotten an interesting array of responses. The only reason I mentioned it was I am now at the point where its going to happen sooner rather than later. I am not the type of person to really discuss my lighting unless asked. I really didn't even have to mention it other than I honestly thought peeps would be happy I was making some changes and upgrades.


Rose, I'm glad to hear that therapy is working for you, it sucks and it's hard but necessary to try and restore as much function as possible.

Keef I didn't know that's what you ran, I fault no one for working within their budget to accomplish their grows. My comment about MARS was merely based on the fact that I have seen several component failures and the results have been a little less than stellar, but it is a good mid range light, I'm just not sure its gonna stand up to how hard I drive. For a bit it has been DE , Plasma or LED and LED is the only tech that provides me with the heat control I need. So I needed to locate and research a commercial grade LED, I have and I am pleased.


Hippie I have ran MH/HPS since coming indoors, nothing wrong with that set-up, I like it and I'm comfortable with it. I have a heat problem that cannot be engineered out so I have a need for lighting that produces the same results I was getting with a 600w HPS but with 1/10 of the heat, LED was the most logical choice, hard part was finding what I wanted and worked for a price that I could justify.


I hope we can put this LED discussion away now and concentrate on our friendships and the plants we love.

 

[ness]

Isn't it 8 week or 60 days until they are ready harvest. I'm talking about, when the seeds pops out of the dirt that is were I am counting the days from. Please, tell me if this is Right or not.

Keef, Kraven, can you tell me if :yeahthat: is right or not. :48:

 

[Keef]

I have obviously missed something !-- Lights is part of growing what's the problem with talking about lights ?-- I don't have a problem with any kind of light we do what we have to and as our skill level improve so does our equipment! --I for one Kraven will be very interested in how they work for U !--I may want some one day !---Anyone wanna talk bad about how I do want hurt my feelings a bit !--They not here and may not have the same environment so our problems are different !---Kraven is bristling where I got to go to get the back story ? --- Is it a fight I can get into ? --I mean just for fun !--

 

[Keef]

Nes that's not how normal photo plants like U got work !----When the get about a third to a half as tale as U want U turn the lights down from 24/7 or 18/6 that you've grown them in to 12/12 that's 12 hours of day and 12 hours of dark !--When a variety say it will finish in 60 day it means from the time U changed the light to 12/12 !-- U will need a jewelers loop to look at the tricome color and to look for bugs they $25 or so !

 

[yarddog]

Nes, the 8 week you mention is the estimated time from the day you change the plants to 12 hour light. You can expect to veg for 6 to 8 weeks before flipping to flower for another 8 to 9 weeks.

 

[Rosebud]

Nes i usually veg for 7 weeks or so and flower for 8 or 9 so that is 4 months total.

Kraven of course there will be no trouble with you growing led. Not at all. I brought pj up because he is the guru and i followed the guru's instructions. I will be thrilled to watch. I have had my led's two years I think..My power bill went down 50 dollars when i went to led and outside. Our friendship has nothing to do with how you grow, i would like you if you grew with a blue light bulb in shredded kleenex. I must have come across different than I meant to, I am sorry. I love ya man.

 

[ness]

Thank You, Keef and YD. Your words are very helpful. Got the lighting on 18 on, 6 off on a timer. Though timers are hard to set for me it was. Got it working just fine.

 

[Hippie420]

I have a heat problem that cannot be engineered out so I have a need for lighting that produces the same results I was getting with a 600w HPS but with 1/10 of the heat, LED was the most logical choice, hard part was finding what I wanted and worked for a price that I could justify.

That's why I went the cheap route. My sealed grow room is 8x8x7 tall, so I bought a cheap hundred buck air conditioner and stuck it through the wall.

What you choose to use is anyone's decision. I've seen good results with lights of all flavors.

 

[Kraven]

No bristling here Keef, just trying to head off any issues before they begin. Not looking for a fight. Trying especially hard to not get involved in the whole LED vs HID lighting discussion, too many peeps get kinkled up over that discussion, I want no part of that. I got pic's from the garden today, rounding the,m up to post in a few.

 

[ness]

Thank You, Rose, I'm going to write it down, I have a short term memory. So, if I repeat my self, I am sorry. How your arm feeling?

 

[Kraven]

Love you too Rose, I just hear whispers and tid bits of some issue that happened here a few weeks ago about a disagreement or something and it had to do with lighting I believe, have not looked, care not too.

 

[Rosebud]

Kraven did you see my last post?

nes, it is ok. My arm is a lot better, thank you for asking. I had a good work out today and am much more hopeful than I have been.

 

[Keef]

If a guru told U to jump off a cliff --would U ?--- If there's gonna be a fight --I want to be on Kraven side !--What we fighting about ? One "guru" said vegging 24/7 would kill weed !--Lots of people believed him ! He was wrong !---I been reading my books and if I may ? -- Some of it is straight up B/S !-- U Need the right kind of the right light--The right amount of water and nutes in the right proportion , proper temp and humidity --Weeds gonna grow don't matter how U got there ! The trick is giving it the perfect conditions so that the plant can express itself to it's best !--Like some do in different ways !--