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[Keef]

What do U think about bringing the light down from 12 to maybe 10 last couple days to push the plant a little ?-- Not talking about ascending and diminishing light schedule -- Thinking about that gives me a headache !--I mean just drop it !--Push the plant gently from all directions ---light -- temp --water and humidity ?--Drop the temp and water less and the humidity will drop !--Especially with A/C !--
U know I keep learning from U guys ---When they turn me loose ---Shame on them !

 

[Keef]

Cane I missed the pic of your new grow space !-- That'll work !--

 

[umbra]

What do U think about bringing the light down from 12 to maybe 10 last couple days to push the plant a little ?-- Not talking about ascending and diminishing light schedule -- Thinking about that gives me a headache !--I mean just drop it !--Push the plant gently from all directions ---light -- temp --water and humidity ?--Drop the temp and water less and the humidity will drop !--Especially with A/C !--
U know I keep learning from U guys ---When they turn me loose ---Shame on them !

I personally wouldn't decrease the light. The a/c will drop the humidity but only when it is on. I use it and a dehumidifier and still getting down to under 30% is difficult to maintain. This is the what I have learned since coming to Cali. It's not how to get from germination to harvest, it's more about the subtle nuisance that make good weed great. It's a lot of little things that make a difference, once you get the hang of the basic grow.

 

[umbra]

Dala was trimming for LED, I believe she was instructed to do so by you know who.

Umbra, i was reading my journal from 2011, thanks for always being nice to me. That was a fun group back then. It is a great group now too, but you know some of those old names..

Can ya'll keep a secret? I believe the Hemp Goddess is coming to my house tomorrow!

Nes, i have meant to talk to you all day. My plants aren't starting to flower yet.. It is all dependent on the hours of day light. So you aren't doing anything wrong. Be safe out there nes. sounds scary.

Yes Rose, Dala was trimming for Leds, but many of those principals apply to non LED grows as well. Light is a tricky thing with LEDS and penetration, but stress all the same. Buds looked pretty dank to me, if I recall.

 

[Rosebud]

She grows awesome plants.

 

[Dalahaze]

Yes, i was trimming for LED's. Trick is to get penetration down to the medium. Here is an example of a plant on flower day 34 mid plant and at the base of the plant....LED's swing 24" above the canopy and the plants are 3 feet tall so you can get perspective. These are what I blast them with along with a few other toys.

https://www.illumitex.com/horticulture/horticultural-products/neosol-ds/

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[umbra]

whether intended or not, the severe pruning stressed the plant

 

[sopappy]

There is a trick to it...stress without hurting. So if the plant could talk and it had a safe word, then you'd get it. Yes it is about bondage and tying girls up, or stripping them naked...but with their consent of course, lol.

THAT is a very good analogy...
I see LST in an entirely different way now.

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[sopappy]

Pappy --I think U at the right place !--- There's more weed knowledge here than most places !--- We teach and learn from each other !--

Great place, I'd have given up if I hadn't joined and gotten all the help. Trouble is, you feel like a leech some days.

 

[sopappy]

Pappy -- Put a trash bag over your bottom tray !--Flood those plants --drain then place a damp towel inside the bottom of the box !--Sit the plants on the damp towel ---Put the lid on !-- It should mist up with condensation on the inside of the lid after an hour or so !-- Then you know it's moist enough !-- U can save most of those but the inside of that box needs to stay warm and moist !--

Those trays are ebb & flow, not using it now at all, those rapid rooters are staying moist. I have conflicting info on directly spraying the plants so I only spray inside of dome. I don't like wet towel but I like the idea, could I not leave cups of water in there?

Sounds like I shouldn't spray, it should mist up on it's own.

Inside warm and moist, room temp okay? I see 90 hum in there but rarely over 75 temp, how do I increase heat? mats, lower the T5s, hot water in cups?
Friggin' drugs, I'm thinking miniature hot water radiators now.
Jeeze, this is mine and pretty good for crappy looking weed

 

[WeedHopper]

Green Mojo Pappy. Morning Brother Keef and Umbra.

 

[St_Nick]

Good morning folks . It's a wonderful day in the neighbor. I woke up to three new girls showing their ladyparts . I guess they are determined, they were under 18 hours light.

Wake and Bake!:48:

 

[sopappy]

Green Mojo Pappy. Morning Brother Keef and Umbra.

Hey WH, almost live here,
snooping Umbra's posts as we speak, my clones are wimps

 

[sopappy]

Yes and no. When I did organic soil I was did a root feeding. Now I do it when I transplant clones or seedlings, but once the roots are established I do a lights out foliar feeding 1 a week.

lights out
18/6 last hour of dark?
or do you leave on 24 and interrupt? if not, when do you start 24, if you do.
(heck of a long time for water to disappear from leaves when I do that)

 

[Keef]

Morning O.F.C. !--
Hey Dala good to see U !---
Pappy just keep keeping on !-- Yes the details should mist up on it's own !-- Yes U can put a container of water !--Sounds like it has the moisture but not the warmth !
Congrats on the girls Nick !
Now I need my pipe !

 

[St_Nick]

DD and Keef. I just realized I never commented on how cute your little terror is. I wish I had the fortune to have found my pups as a rescue. I got the first of three for my ex. They were just so cute that when my chow passed I got Harley to replace her. He has proven to be incredibly loyal and intelligent. My female was a cutie but dumber than a box of rocks! :vap-Bong_smoker:

 

[sopappy]

Yes, i was trimming for LED's. Trick is to get penetration down to the medium. Here is an example of a plant on flower day 34 mid plant and at the base of the plant....LED's swing 24" above the canopy and the plants are 3 feet tall so you can get perspective. These are what I blast them with along with a few other toys.

https://www.illumitex.com/horticulture/horticultural-products/neosol-ds/

I was going to surf some porn but this thread is really picking up,
where'd you get that red pipe cleaner?
and why do you want to penetrate all the way down to the medium?

 

[Dalahaze]

whether intended or not, the severe pruning stressed the plant

Umbra, my intention is to not stress the plant but to open it up and direct energy to the shoots that will hit canopy level. I follow a simple set of rules whether using HID or LED lighting.

I prune at 7 nodes high the take off the first 2-4 nodes on the bottom to direct the energy toward the upper meristem's and to allow air flow under and around my plants. Secondly I go up each main beam and trim off the first 2-3 limbs, anything that after the stretch can't make it to within 12" of the canopy. I do trim any fans that are pointing back into the center of the plant that I just staked open with 6-8 mains. I don't advocate a heavy defoliation, I tried it once and the plant recovered but it cost me weight and I have not tried again. I guess they do look a little pruned right at the flip because I prune, stake and flip all on the same day. A week to ten days later I'll do any final touch ups that need to be done and from there on out I don't touch them. I do flip at 12-14" because I know the stretch on this strain very well, and at that height I get a good even canopy with plants that are around 36" tall. I'm not advocating that my method is correct, it just works well for me, and I seem to get heavier harvests without so much larf.

 

[St_Nick]

Light penetration is directly responsible for the quality of the bud. If light don't hit it, it doesn't become a good dense bud hence the popularity of scrog grows.

 

[Keef]

Nick my Shiti-tzu girls are ladies !--- I got my first one when my daughter came to live with D.D. and I !-- She brought her new puppy !-Which quickly became my dog !-When she went off to college I kept the Pup !--My Itsy-Bitsy was with me for 17 years !--- It's the 2 boys we rescued that are hellions! -- They're small dogs but not Shiti-tzu !-- After my fall and surgery I was mostly bed bound and feeling sorry for myself and wasn't sure I could live this way --The wife brought a little black and white Shiti-tzu puppy and the dog rescued me !-- I rescued Jake and Jet to in her honor!