generators??

[Growdude]

thanks ... ive done research on many of them and the new inverter gens...are as quite as a conversation or vacume,,,hemp ur right it would take 5000 to run 3000...if you figure a 1.5 gallon tank will run 12 hours @ half load will give you 2500 watts off the grid at say 3.00$ a gallon would be like 135 dollars in gas a month....i dont know were you get the 500$ a month

I dont know where you get 1.5 gallons per 12 hours?

Here is one that is probably too small and it uses 11.86 per 18hours at 50% load, so it way more.

hxxp://www.peakpowertools.com/Portable-Inverter-Generator-Pramac-4300W-Subaru-p/gpr04956.htm

So @ $3.00 gallon = $35.00 a day or 1069.00 per month.

 

[smokingjoe]

you are funny think about this with alittle common sense do you think 1.5 gal gas is really gonna last 12 hrs come on now you really cant be serious are you?

I used to run a 3 cyl lister diesel on about 15lts a day running 24/7 on our farm.

From memory it was a 7kva genset, an old school lighting plant with massive telescopic boom and 4 light truck tyres.

Depending on where you are you could feasibly run a decent diesel genset on bio-diesel and cost you very little.

 

[Growdude]

Here is one that uses about a 1/2 gallon an hour @ 50% load so it would be more.

hxxp://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Cummins-Onan-P5550E/p3534.html

Only $915.00 to operate 18hrs a day for a month.

 

[Kcar]

I was reading someone ran one of those big Lister's 24/7 for 10 years!
Just oil her up every day!

 

[3rdbase]

Charges
09/05/2009 - 09/30/2009
Electric Charges $221.83
Baseline Quantity 215.80000 Kwh
Baseline Usage 215.80000 Kwh @ $0.11531
101-130% of Baseline 64.74000 Kwh @ $0.13109
131-200% of Baseline 151.06000 Kwh @ $0.25974
201-300% of Baseline 215.80000 Kwh @ $0.37866
Over 300% of Baseline 153.08485 Kwh @ $0.4409 thats exactly what im sayin very expensive to run say 4 1000s ......as for the generators .... yamaha .. and hondas are kinda the same....but this is where im coming from run say you run 2 lights on the grid and say you run 2 lights off the grid ....there are generators that can supply say ...5000 watts peak ...on a 1/4 tank for 8 hours and 12hours @half load so one tank will run ur generator for 12 hours just at half load meaning 2500 watts 2/ 1000 or3/ 600watters.......idont see how a 2 gallon tank runs 500 or 1000 dollars a in a month in gas..............mind you im only talking about flowering phase so 12 hours of uses,,,,,,,most generator retail stores have the certain models specifications ....not to be mean but maybe you dont understand how much a gas and how much use you get out of a particular unit... cuz there all very different..:welcome:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...5Y6GqseRDyrBcKQnA&sig2=VMYL9IpNEwNbk5uALBavSw

 

[3rdbase]

kcar..........if you dont mind me asking what is your setup that ur bill is 220$..cus im very curious how people run multi 1000 watt setups without paying 300 400$ ...unless there all growing in box grows wishing they had a fat setup up:**:and just trippin .....33$ per 1000 str8 trippin more like 80 too 100$....and if ur paying more than 44cents per kw than :holysheep:

 

[Kcar]

First off that's not a month, it's only 25 days - the other 5 or six days was like 80 so it was 300 total or about 10 a day.

I had 1 400w hps(12h), 1 200w t5(24h), 1 64w t8(24h) 2 squirrel cage fans (24h), 2 150w hps(12h), 1 26w UV bulb(12h), 2 small fans(24h)

Now i've added a 600w Hps(12h), 6" vortex (12h) 1 more small fan(24h)
So we'll see where it goes from there.

On the up side, Nov 1 switched to winter rates (same rate just higher baseline)

Kcar

 

[Growdude]

.there are generators that can supply say ...5000 watts peak ...on a 1/4 tank for 8 hours and 12hours @half load so one tank will run ur generator for 12 hours just at half load meaning 2500 watts 2/ 1000 or3/ 600watters.......idont see how a 2 gallon tank runs 500 or 1000 dollars a in a month in gas..............mind you im only talking about flowering phase so 12 hours of uses,,,,,,,most generator retail stores have the certain models specifications ....not to be mean but maybe you dont understand how much a gas and how much use you get out of a particular unit... cuz there all very different..

You need to read the specs of the generator, here is the best I could find so far, hxxp://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Yamaha-EF4500iSE/p1707.html

This is a 4000watt gen. so 50% load is fairly correct.

It uses 4.5 gallons of fuel per 10 hours at 50% load. Or .45 gallons per hour x 12 hours = 5.4 gallons per day or 162 gallons per month or $486.00 @ $3.00 per gallon per month.

 

[leafminer]

Yu wouldn't want to use any petrol generator. Biodiesel can be made cheaply. Slow-speed diesels are much more efficient, require almost no maintenance.

 

[Dr. Manny Bowles]

.44 cents a kw/h?

holybujeesus batman

 

[Amber Dog]

I will take 10 of these magic generators. No, really.

 

[3rdbase]

kcar.. thanks man ive been getting :**:by alot of people on this site saying that electric usage couldnt be that high.....kw per hour cost... thats why im trying to figure a way to run my lights as cheaply as possible any suggestions.... iwant to run 4 600 watt digis 12/12......

 

[3rdbase]

what .... Biodiesel petrol generator. do you recommend thats quite

 

[Kcar]

This sure has promise...

hxxp://www.generatordepot.us/5500watt-diesel-electric-generator-silent-1.aspx

11 hours at 1/2 load on 4 gallons of fuel (8hours on full load)

 

[Growdude]

Have you thought about LED's 3rdbase?

 

[3rdbase]

ya ... ive studied leds and flowed them for the past year and a half... and dont want invest into lights that have a low penetration level....sog is cool if u go that route but no need to fix a system thats not broken ....plus led tech is way unexplored in indoor growing ..very expensive and there is really no hard evidence that they improve anything ....than your ebill...ide rathe put my mony on a couple 1000s off grid....i figure with the setup i have now ... i could have the potential of getting up to 8000 lumens a sq foot... with the added light.....my co2 would kick bulloks.......but i need to add another 2000 watts some how........leds are kinda the first cell phone.....nobody knows if there really worth it initially ......what about you

 

[3rdbase]

kcar nice link.... i might read a little more .... but do you think those are better than inverters.......

 

[smokingjoe]

One other thing I forgot to add previously is a modern attenuated diesel generator is a very quiet animal. They are frequently used in marine applications on live aboard vessels and you wouldn't know they were on.

Electricity in my neck of the woods is around 6c per kw hour off peak and around 14c per kw hour peak.

Electricity bills of around $150-$200 per month is not uncommon.

 

[3rdbase]

what do you have runnin.... and what state

 

[smokingjoe]

State = Stoned
I don't live in the US, on the southern side of the equator. In $USD conversion would be about 13c for the peak supply.

Edit: as for running, 2 x 400 Son T, Mixflow fan & pump