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something like this?
get 6 hXXp://www.greners.com/quantum-badboy-t5-grow-lamp-6500k.html


and this

get 6 hXXp://www.greners.com/quantum-badboy-t5-grow-lamp-2900k.html



if this T5's say it can veg and the red ones can bloom, that means i dont need to go with HPS
 
No, just because it says that you CAN do it doesn't mean that you should. If you are serious about growing you NEED a HPS for flowering. Anything else is going to cost you more in electricity and give you substantially less bud. Do not scrimp on your lights--it directly affects your yield. Besides, after you get the fixture, those T5s you linked would probably run you more than an HPS. You can get a 400W HPS for around $150 total and a 600W for around $200 total if you shop around.

T5s are great for vegging. HPS is great for flowering.
 
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if this T5's say it can veg and the red ones can bloom, that means i dont need to go with HPS

They don't put out near enough to bloom a plant, work great for vegging though! You need a lot of "sun power" if you want good buds, you'll only get that from proper lighting.
 
this is what i have now for my list

2 x 4 x 7 Hydroponic Dark Grow Tent Garden Dome Cabinet
Virtual Sun 400W HPS MH Grow Light Hood Reflector Digital...
Hydroponic Grow System DWC Drip Combo Complete setup
T5 GROW LIGHT COMPLETE w T5HO BULBS 6 4 foot 6500k
pH °C ORP EC CF TDS PPM Monitor Water Meter Tester LED
Hydroton 50 Liters - Expanded Clay Grow Rocks Hydroponics...
New MTN Hydroponics 4" Inline Duct Tube Exhaust Fan Carbo...

total is $986. i was in the market for $1000 setup anyways and it seems thats how much it takes to get started the right way

can I stand up the T5's and hang the HPS? or just switch them out when its time.
 
You'll need a aircooledhood in that tent even with a 400watt. So you'll still need a exhaust fan on that list. 6" atleast. And not a booster fan

Also I have a 2x4 tent, you'll be underlit around the sides when using a 400
 
somewhat, but at 3x3 i would be rocking a 600watt still ;)
 
ok ill get a 600watt hps system with a 3x3

do you think i can go with a TWO FOOT 8 LAMP T5HO? so it will fit or do i really need the 4 FOOT 6 LAMPs?
 
you have a 1000$ budget?
Amazon,htg supply,Ebay,craigslist.

I spent under 500 on everything including soil,seeds
 
In a ,3x3 your going to need 27k Lumens for veg. My 4ft t5 8bulb is only 40k.

45k for flower.. A 400w would cover that area also. The 600 has more penetrating power though.
 
this is the light http://www.ebay.com/itm/16070954688...:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649#ht_11579wt_1137

heres my new list
6 Inch X 16 Ft Flexible Ducting Tube w/ 2 Clamps
6" INLINE CENTRIFUGAL 2670 RPM DUCT FAN BLOWER 450 CFM
Hydroponic Grow System DWC Drip Combo Complete setup
3 x 3 x 7 Hydroponic Dark Grow Tent Garden Dome Cabinet
New LCD Digital TDS Meter Tester Water Quality ppm Purity...
T5 GROW LIGHT COMPLETE w T5HO BULBS 2 4 6 8 lamp 24" 48" ...
Hydroton 50 Liters - Expanded Clay Grow Rocks Hydroponics...
Virtual Sun 600W HPS MH Grow Light Hood Reflector Magneti...
Virtual Sun 600W HPS MH Grow Light Hood Reflector Magneti...
 
so that means i need 4 foot 8 lamps? how can i fit that in a 3x3? can i stand it up on its side?
 
With that big of fan your going to want a speed controller.. Im having trouble keeping my tent warm enough (I forgot one)

Ever thought of DIY tent/hydro setup? Can save yourself a lot of $
 
do you have any place that sells a combo that works well?
 
one sec. Uploading pics of my setup in a sec. I have a 4x3x5 tent. Vegging with 2 4ft t5s.
 
I just dont want to get the wrong stuff and end up spending more
 
Wow I like that tent. Fairly cheap too.

Here are some pics of how I veg, my tent, and my flower equipment.

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ill veg under the 10k Lumen t5 for about 2-3wks..

Then I swap to my 400w MH on 50%-75% untill I flip to 100% and flower under the HPS..

Im underlit so I toss the 432w t5 in on the sides..

With a 600w you would b fine.
 

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