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Nupe05

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Hey guys/ladies

Im currently in the process of researching, and studying indoor growing. My iniatial goal was to grow small for my parents, but with the change in law in my state, i now see a larger legal opportunity. My hopes of starting a cultivation center have now become a real possibilty and i would like to speak with someone with experience in this endeavor. I was wondering if there are members who currently own, work or have dealings with a commerical size operations. I would like to ask some questions and possibly come out to visit to see how there operations is run.

If post is in wrong sub topic please move, I appoligize in advance,

Thanks in advance
 
I dont grow for profit. I grow for 4 patients including me. Id be happy to help you with growing but for a subject like this i think you should contact a lawyer.

Good luck Nupe!!! :48:
 
Your outta your mind!! 5 posts and you want to come visit someones grow?? Legal or not. Best kept quiet. If you really want to grow big, spend some time here studying and then post up questions. You can learn the same here. Hope you got some dough saved up.
 
This is just my opinion, but I would strongly suggest starting small before attempting something large such as a commercial cultivation center. Reading and researching on growing before you start is the best way to approach learning how to grow MJ so kudos for doing your homework. But there is no substitute for experience. I have been growing personally for myself for years now, and even if I was going to ever consider something like a commercial cultivation center I would want to hire someone that has grown in large scale operations to help oversee the project. You are talking about a large investment in an actual site, lighting, a/c systems, growing mediums, nutrients, plant genetics....thousands and thousands of dollars. MJ is a weed and can grow in lots of places, but it isn't hard to kill a plant if you aren't feeding it right, and it IS hard learning how to dial in a strain and it's feeding needs perfectly. It would SUCK to invest tens of thousands in a set-up, only to need months to learn how to dial in everything correctly. Again, this is just me but I would start small. Get an HPS light and some good seeds and see if you like doing it. Go through a few grows before making such a big decision.

Hope this helps. I am not trying to discourage you or anything. It is just what I would do.

-SSF-
 
There is a huge learning curve to this growing stuff. I would recommend that you start small and learn the basics. It takes time, effort, money, education, dedication, and heart to grow mj.
 
thanks all for the reply's

Im not looking to start this in the next week or so, at best Im many months away from this. But with the start of any business sometimes speaking with someone already doing it helps clariify your thoughts, and points you in a direction that may help one proceed, or seek another avenue.. Im completely in agreement with everything that all have suggested, and i already have most of my equipment to began my first grow at home, as to work with different strains, mediums etc.. as to find what will work best for my experience level, and my goals.

I hope i didn't offend anyone with the suggestion of visiting there grow areas, that request was for those that are in legal states that are allowed to grow legally, were they could offer suggestion on how to's, and no-no's.. and give a first hand prespective of the system that they utilze in the grows.

Im trying to become a legal cultivation center, and it a daunting task, and with the start of any business there are a lot of things that are needed, and money is probably the biggest of them all. However if its a solid idea investors will gladly contribute. But i have a lot to learn before i reach that point. My first grow will commence in roughly 3 weeks, so I'll utilize this forum to its fullest..But i do have a bigger goal in mind,

Keep the comments and suggestion coming its all educational to me, Im not offended in the least

thanks again
 
Hey bro...

I love your drive and enthusiasm but be sure to keep in mind that when it comes to the learning curve on how to grow killa dank or for that matter how to do virtually ANYTHING well on this Earth, the first MILLION hours are always a beeeatch~! :hubba:

After that its a piece of cake~! ;)


Peace~! :cool:
 
Even being legal its not smart to take others into your grow. Keep it to yourself and you will sleep solid each night. Imagine not one person knowing besides you? Study up and ask questions. I will answer if I see it. I do alright with the greenery. I got lots of pics on here. Pics are always nice to have something to compare things. All your answers are here. Start saving up. This sport is spendy. Decide on the sq ft of your space first then $$$$ start coming to light. GL
 
nouvellechef said:
. Start saving up. This sport is spendy. GL

Sweet! I need to get more exercise, it's good to know my grows are a sport! :p Just kidding NC, it does feel like a sport sometimes. Besides, if poker is a sport, growing is a sport. I get more of a workout lugging around plants and buckets of water than poker players do pushing around playing cards and poker chips!

-SSF-
 
Depends how much cards you play. It can be grueling. I go quite a bit to the Tulalip, Muckelshoot and Riverrock in BC to log in many hours of cards. Cash games, some tourneys. Cards takes a toll on you too. Yes, both are sports.
 
nouvellechef said:
Depends how much cards you play. It can be grueling. I go quite a bit to the Tulalip, Muckelshoot and Riverrock in BC to log in many hours of cards. Cash games, some tourneys. Cards takes a toll on you too. Yes, both are sports.

Sure, poker is a sport.....and so is competitive eating, long-distance spitting, and yodeling....but I prefer Webster's definition of "sport", "physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) : a particular activity (as an athletic game". By that definition *** is more of a sport, (and a much better one) than poker. I have played/play my fair share of poker and yes it requires patience and mental ability, but physical ability.......no.
Don't get me wrong, I am a big poker fan. I would tell you my Pokerstars and FullTilt screennames if I didn't care about revealing identity.
-SSF-
 
(Besides, if it is a "sport" we aren't allowed to discuss it on Mar-P :D ) So let's say it isn't then we can talk about it all we want!

-SSF-
 
I love your ambition Nupe but I would follow the advice already given, start small, expand as your customer base grows, that way the investment will come to you.
Have a read at the below, I found it someowhere, I forget where, a while ago and you made me think of it so smile and read on dude.

Okay, so it’s your very first grow ever, right? Here is what you need to do. First things first....buy the most expensive seeds you can find. And as many of them as you can, because you are going to kill them by the dozens…I can't stress this enough. Then you need to put it in a wet paper towel to germinate it. You should check on them every fifteen minutes or sooner to see if they have germinated yet. The second it does you need to have bought the most expensive soil and nutes and hired a shaman (trust me; he is worth it) directly from germination you need to get them in the soil after reading about 600 hours on the internet whether you should plant with the root tip up or down (reading should be done before hand) As soon as you get them in the soil you soak it with water and as much nutes as you can and have the shaman bless it. Then you lift it above your head like the sword of He-Man and dance around and think of all the great smoke and money you are going to have for the rest of your life off this one plant.

Now, you run it to your closet, or your tent, or the New house you bought to grow your one plant in. now is the hard part.... you have to check on the plant roughly every 7 to 8 minutes to see if it has popped yet, and every time you go in there make sure you are pissed because it isn’t 10 foot tall yet. And all this happens before the seed even breaks the surface. Once it does your anxiety should immediately rocket to around 25 hits of X. Now as soon as it pops you need to check it about every 5 to 6 minutes, and be even more pissed when it isn’t 12 foot tall now. This is the most important part....you have to think about them ALL THE TIME!!!! This helps them grow. now after they have popped you need to dump gallons and gallons of water on them and as much ferts as possible try to keep the top of the pot level with ferts, even if it covers the plant all the way up.

Okay; if some how they make it past this you will have a whole another set of worries. Now you have to read every last post on the internet about whether you should do 18/6, 24/0, 16/8 light cycle, and trust me; EVERYONE will know what they are talking about. Once you have read every, and I mean EVERY post! (Maybe try to learn to a new language to read other posts in)...or ask the shaman, you should have him living at your house by now. Now once you get the lights set...again the most expensive money can buy; because plants can not survive without thousands of dollars worth of lighting. Now you will need to check them about every 4 to 5 minutes and be even more pissed they aren't 14 foot tall.

It is around this point you might want to start sleeping right outside of the closet. Now, when you are sleeping you need to make sure you are dreaming of the plants every night. Again, this helps them grow. Your dreams should consist of a couple different things. One of my faves is when you dream vividly that they have all died overnight. This one wakes you up in cold sweats (trust me). Also, the one about the cops busting you will happen about once a week. Okay, now that you and the shaman are sleeping right outside the door your plants will start to grow. Remember, to water them about 14-15 times a day. Because when you grow weed MORE is ALWAYS better. Now, you have had your plants in veg for about 3 weeks. At, this point you should have one of two things happen, you have either lost your job, or your wife has left you over the plants. (Again; **** them because you are going to be rich, remember?)

After vegging for 3 weeks you need to check on them every 2 to 3 minutes and be furious they are not 16 feet tall yet. Check more, if possible. KEEP thinking of them non-stop. If you don't think of them for one second they will die immediately. Now you have had them in veg for 6 weeks, now at this point you should have around 600 posts asking about every time a new leave grows or the soil looks too wet or too dry or something even looks a little out of place.

Now, you have started flowering, at this point you need to check them every 1 to 2 minutes. Try to stare at them long enough to make sure you turn them into females using just your mind. Well, at this point you should be living in the closet anyhow. You need to stare at them really hard....for the entire time the light is on. If you blink they will become male and pollinate every weed plant in your state. Once you get about 2 weeks into flowering (if you have survived the 3 nervous break downs you’ve had about what *** they are) you will see either balls or hairs. Just like most situations in life; balls are bad. At this point the shaman should have moved into the closet with you. Now for a couple days you are going to need to be on high alert. You will be looking at the plant so hard for balls that you will actually see it grow in front of your eyes. Everything in your life will look like a ball....your shirt, your shoes, your kids, your house, even soccer balls will look like balls. At this point you will have a live feed of your plant on the web asking everyone that will look at them if they see balls. Now finally the day will come and you will see some hairs. At this point you will go back on the internet and make sure you don’t have a hermi. The only way you can make sure you don’t have a hermi is with a couple thousand hours of reading and a hundred or so red bulls.

You will know you have a female. This is where the fun starts. This is where you start spending all the sweet cash your going to make. Now that you know it is female you should just stand over the plant and never be further than 6 inches away from it. You might want to invest in some adult diapers, or a colostomy bag at this point, because if you leave its side it will die in the time it takes you to take a piss. Right about now you should be thinking about the 14 to 15 pounds this plant is going to yield and worry about the Mexican cartel hunting you down for stealing their business. Make sure you put that down payment on the Ferrari you are going to buy with the 30 pounds this plant is going to produce. Because you are going to be hella rich! Also, you might want to consider knocking a hole in the roof of your house for how big the top cola is going to be. Around now you should have roughly 45,000 pictures of it and wonder why High Times hasn't called you about the center fold yet.

Now the buds are ready!!! You know because you have killed the shaman and his bones say they are. All right, we are almost home. You are going to harvest the 60 pounds of bud off this one plant. You step out of the closet long enough to get your Light saber (this is the kind of precision cutting tool you will need) but hurry; if you’re gone longer than 20 seconds your plants will die. Right about now the Sun should really hurt you eyes and the fresh air will sting your lungs like a thousand fire ants, because you haven’t left the closet in 6 weeks. Plus, all you’ve had to eat is shaman remains, but keep going. You go back in and cut the buds with hands of a surgeon you just killed on the way back into the closet.

Now you have to hang them in a dry, dark place. It is at this time you need to dig a hole deep enough for you to get you and your 90 pounds of cuttings into; because it has to be DARK AND DRY. At this point you have not left the plant's side in many weeks; so be careful, you might step on the 4 foot beard you have grown. You RUN outside and dive into the hole (think Hussein’s spider hole) you stay down in there for about a week and a half and just stay in a state of crying and weeping as your 120 pounds of weed has shrunken to less than an ounce. Then you sell half of it for 40 bucks and smoke the other half in just one bong hit.....then you start the process all over again!!!!
 
Im looking at potential sites, just to get an idea at what im looking at roughly to spend in jusr in rent each month. Im however limited to only having 95 plants at one time. and its not clear if clones/seedlings are considered in that number. so sq ft needed will be based on a number of factors. Im just gathering information, and knowledge. once i put everything together i will have a very solid business proposal, knowledge of my product and a plan of action.. This site is the Holy Grail for me, Ive built a MP's bubble cloner for the hell of it, im using LC soiless mix #2 and Recipe #1.. The info here and the help have been Top Notch..

If Cheerleading is a sport, then poker is definetly a sport.. and lf im lugging heavy @ss pots, soil, plants etc.. it may not be a sport, but is damn sure a workout:)
 
i think you should show us some of (your) grower skills first, then maybe we can talk bout the rest of the stuff. :cool:

sounds like your putting the cart before the horse. 95 plants? gotta be cali. and did you know that the feds are back in full take down mode of commercial ops? so what makes ya think anyone is gonna open a show up for you to just waltz into? not gonna happen.

hire a lawyer. you'll need one...good luck...
 
And OP please stop asking to see a commercial operation. Either search google for videos, or come break into my grow ;)

cause im sorry but your not gettingyour foot in the door through the internet. I personally believe that every mp.c member is smart enough to know this, so your asking to see someones grow is just dumb.

Noobs dont have commercial grows, est. members are too smart for that.
 
The Hemp Goddess said:
There is a huge learning curve to this growing stuff. I would recommend that you start small and learn the basics. It takes time, effort, money, education, dedication, and heart to grow mj.

:confused2: :laugh: Yeah, actually being able to grow is a good place to start when contemplating a 'cultivation center'.

Cultivation Center?? Is this the new yuppy pc term for a grow op? Or, something you thought up?

Sorry, I just don't care for the term.:ignore:

Wet
 
Hey Nupe,

I know you have a lot of questions right now and big ideas, but most of those questions will have been answered by the completion of your first grow and a lot of those ideas will have changed by the completion as well. Your desire to start a compassion center, while admirable, is akin to a guy saying, "I like rock and roll, so I think I'll be a rock star. Now lets see, anyone know the number of the nearest arena, I'm gonna need it for my first show." Now I'm not saying you shouldn't shoot for the stars, but theres a whole lotta steps between where you're at now and where you wanna be, and there's no commercial grower thats gonna come swoop in and hold your hand through the process, just like no rock star is gonna come and say "Oh you wanna be a rock star too? Well follow me!" If you want to get an idea of what to do, start growing, which it sounds like you're on track for. Talk to your local grow shops about how others are handling their commercial grows in the area. They might be able to direct you to local growing classes as well, sometimes put on by actual commercial growers who may help you out alot. In legal states a good grow shop has a wealth of information. Take some business classes at your local chamber of commerce or something. Talk to a lawyer, as you'll want to hire one when you get serious about opening your center. A lawyer will be able to really help you focus on what you operation need to run like to be legal. In short man, scour all resources available for information, everything you want to know is out there.
 
Hi Nupe05,

I came across this the other day when viewing some vids on You Tube and thought it might interest you. I can't vouch for these guys, in fact prior to seeing the vid had never heard of them, but it might pay to talk to a lawyer that specialises in this area.
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I think you'll find sufficient information on this site and others to enable you to successfully manage the grow and like most other users above think you would be pushing the proverbial up hill to get access to a commercial grow.
 
smokingjoe said:
Hi Nupe05,

I came across this the other day when viewing some vids on You Tube and thought it might interest you. I can't vouch for these guys, in fact prior to seeing the vid had never heard of them, but it might pay to talk to a lawyer that specialises in this area.



I think you'll find sufficient information on this site and others to enable you to successfully manage the grow and like most other users above think you would be pushing the proverbial up hill to get access to a commercial grow.

Thanks SmokingJoe

and to all for your suggestions.. I'm already aware of some of the more basic laws involved, but were im located some of the regulations have not been set by the Department of Health, and its new to the area so there are no consultants/lawyers who are up on the MJ laws/ regulations yet.. mainly because they haven't been set in stone yet.. But before i start anything i will have a lawyer.. But im just at the beginning of this journey, its a work in progress
 

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