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First grafting attempt isn't looking so good. I really wasn't expecting much, since I did the bare minimum to see how simple a process I could get away with. First mistake appears to be not using a plastic bag over the spliced branch to keep in moisture.
Both grafted branches wilted pretty quickly, and are probably not going to survive. I still decided to add the bag late and see what happens. Again, not expect much, just seeing what works and what doesn't.
I also made a new graft on to the other male freak show. I took two cuttings from the ABC plant, sliced them into wedges and sandwiched them inside a wedge I made in the host (I guess the proper terms are root stock and scion, but I prefer host and cutting myself). Anyway, I used double scions because together they are about the same diameter as the root stock branch I grafted to.
I also used Teflon tape to secure the graft then covered that with the plastic grafting tape. Lots of grower's dogma buried in the various explanations on how to do this. The crappy grafting tape doesn't even stick to itself very well, and is next to impossible to wrap tightly around the branch. Teflon tape made it a lot easier.
Now I have to decide how long to wait. I've read everything from two days to two weeks. I think I'll wait until the branch dies or shows new growth.
Both grafted branches wilted pretty quickly, and are probably not going to survive. I still decided to add the bag late and see what happens. Again, not expect much, just seeing what works and what doesn't.
I also made a new graft on to the other male freak show. I took two cuttings from the ABC plant, sliced them into wedges and sandwiched them inside a wedge I made in the host (I guess the proper terms are root stock and scion, but I prefer host and cutting myself). Anyway, I used double scions because together they are about the same diameter as the root stock branch I grafted to.
I also used Teflon tape to secure the graft then covered that with the plastic grafting tape. Lots of grower's dogma buried in the various explanations on how to do this. The crappy grafting tape doesn't even stick to itself very well, and is next to impossible to wrap tightly around the branch. Teflon tape made it a lot easier.
Now I have to decide how long to wait. I've read everything from two days to two weeks. I think I'll wait until the branch dies or shows new growth.
Here's the donor ABC plant I'm using for grafting. It has plenty of branches, just not very many thick ones.
And the THC Bomb seedling that's going to be the next host/root stock plant. It has a couple weeks at least before it will be big enough.
And the THC Bomb seedling that's going to be the next host/root stock plant. It has a couple weeks at least before it will be big enough.
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Out side wind sucks, more than once plants split at the stem. I use clone jell and black electric tape. The clone jell doesn't let air get to the open stem and electric tape provides pressure to hold them together with out choking them, This may help, it works for me.
I've seen paint, silicone and Elmer's used glue to seal them as well. I'll definitely try the cloning jell, though. Electrical tape would be easier to secure the graft, but it might be difficult to remove later. I think that's why they all use these no-stick wraps.
I avoided it initially because it looked awkward and not everyone did it. But it was a lot easier than it looked to get it on there and reasonably sealed.
Oh yeah, all the Freak Bomb seeds sprouted, then died a fuzzy moldy death. I have a bunch more soaking in 3% H2O2. I just need a couple to survive, but I'm starting to think I won't even get that. One more lesson I have to remember : )
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Na electrical tape is very easy to remove it will surprize you. Electrical tape when you streach it it get tighter than you may think, and over time for some reason it comes off easier than you think. Black electrical tape give it a try.
The auto feminized seeds I made from the Auto Caramelicious and the Auto GDP turned out to not be autos at all. I started three of these and gave two away. All three started flowering under 18/6 lighting, then suddenly decided to re-veg. I got confirmation this morning on the two I gave away. They are both re-vegging as well.
The one I kept has been back in the flower room for several days, and is clearly in flower again. No reason to pollinate it with more auto pollen, so I ended up giving it some feminized CSM pollen. Maybe a few seasons of cross pollination and I will get a CSM auto with variegated leaves : )
The CSM plant is getting close to harvest time. Pistils are curling and turning dark. Three to four weeks max before chop day assuming the seeds mature by then. Then I will finally have room to start the DWC sitting in the corner.
Nothing much to report on the various grafting attempts. The lower branch on the first male definitely didn't take, and I removed it. The two on top might have taken, but the leaves had already turned brown.
As long as the stem stays green I'll keep it going, but at some point I need to cull one of the males to stay under the limit. Maybe by the end of the week I'll know if the grafts worked, but success or not that plant has to go <sigh>
The one I kept has been back in the flower room for several days, and is clearly in flower again. No reason to pollinate it with more auto pollen, so I ended up giving it some feminized CSM pollen. Maybe a few seasons of cross pollination and I will get a CSM auto with variegated leaves : )
The CSM plant is getting close to harvest time. Pistils are curling and turning dark. Three to four weeks max before chop day assuming the seeds mature by then. Then I will finally have room to start the DWC sitting in the corner.
Nothing much to report on the various grafting attempts. The lower branch on the first male definitely didn't take, and I removed it. The two on top might have taken, but the leaves had already turned brown.
As long as the stem stays green I'll keep it going, but at some point I need to cull one of the males to stay under the limit. Maybe by the end of the week I'll know if the grafts worked, but success or not that plant has to go <sigh>
Waiting for the lights to come on in the flower room I decided two grafting targets were too many. I tossed the first one which had two failed grafts, probably from not using a plastic bag to keep the humidity high. The second one has three grafts that appear to be working, or at least the leaves are staying green-ish. I'll give it a proper trimming when I can remove the bags.
I also have the 4 ABC clones in a 7 gallon pot, and am slowly pushing them all to the center. The goal is to graft them together as a sort of twisting main stalk. That would provide a much larger root base and only count as one plant. The mother clone is still sitting in the back a few limbs short of the last pic I posted.
The newly vegging plant is a THC Bomb I was planning on grafting an ABC branch to. It's getting a reprieve, since I want to have at least one "normal" plant to grow and harvest this winter. The thing has outpaced all four clones combined with nothing but hose water and used/rinsed MG dirt. It will get topped this weekend.
The two cups are Freak Show seeds. I decided to add them in since I'm the only one who can see what's in the tent! This will be, I think, Freak Show #'s 9 and 10. Hopefully I will finally get a female. If I get 10 males in a row I might just give up on this strain..
I also have the 4 ABC clones in a 7 gallon pot, and am slowly pushing them all to the center. The goal is to graft them together as a sort of twisting main stalk. That would provide a much larger root base and only count as one plant. The mother clone is still sitting in the back a few limbs short of the last pic I posted.
The newly vegging plant is a THC Bomb I was planning on grafting an ABC branch to. It's getting a reprieve, since I want to have at least one "normal" plant to grow and harvest this winter. The thing has outpaced all four clones combined with nothing but hose water and used/rinsed MG dirt. It will get topped this weekend.
The two cups are Freak Show seeds. I decided to add them in since I'm the only one who can see what's in the tent! This will be, I think, Freak Show #'s 9 and 10. Hopefully I will finally get a female. If I get 10 males in a row I might just give up on this strain..
Finally getting some tip burn on the CSM plant. Some edge burn as well. I was starting to think it was immune to over feeding. I did have the lights turned down some due to the warm weather we're having here. Probably should have cut back on the nutes, oh well.
It's got some amber trichomes too, but many of the seeds need more time. They can take the whole month to finish if needed, I guess. I don't have anything waiting to go in there. I will add a drop cloth of some kind to catch any falling seeds that matured early.
It's got some amber trichomes too, but many of the seeds need more time. They can take the whole month to finish if needed, I guess. I don't have anything waiting to go in there. I will add a drop cloth of some kind to catch any falling seeds that matured early.
It took a month just to get an estimate. $6,500 <sigh> almost all of it parts.
Still waiting for the seeds to mature. Otherwise I would be chopping this weekend. Maybe two more weeks...
Resident exterminator isn't happy with me taking her home out for trichome pics. She jumped from the CSM to the DWC when I started moving it. As soon as I put it back she started moving in that direction, but I scared her with the camera. She's just sitting there waiting for me to leave : )
Yep. Couple more weeks.
joeb631a
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Wow, that does not need any more Cal-mag in my opinion
There are at least 5 of them in the flower room, but only that one living on the plant. I leave a banana peel in the trash sometimes, so they can eat the fruit flies that hatch out. I'm hoping they are as effective against other pests.
How’s your new tent set up crash? I like the spiders. I’ve only had them guarding my outdoor plants so far. Lucky at the moment not to have any buggs not even gnats in either tent. I’m trying to make sure I don’t bring anything in but you know how that goes…
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