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Put on a rastafarian hat with a dreadlocks wig, a tie-dye t-shirt, and some hippie flip-flops. If they come back take them a box of doughnuts and coffee.
 
:bong: ..............what?...................oh whatever :bong::bong:!!
 
I don't understand why anyone uses the Doc. There's plenty of other much more reliable sources. I like Seed Boutique, personally.

How many more threads are going to be started here asking "Does the Doc ship to the US?"
 
well my friends all is well on the home front.buddluv sure can read between the lines.i mean this info to do nothing but hopefully help just 1 person.hopefully all that order seeds.my checkered past consists of too much to talk about here.i have been busted before,but not for mj.it was drug related but thats my business.i have nothing to hide and welcome the leo's to visit.fk em all.they know now that i am not the average little snitching btch.this is what this is all about.lets play a game,you tell me 3 names,etc,etc.everybody knows that game.fk em again.i will go to my grave before being labled a sntch,btch,=punk.
for all that take something from this,good.for the doubters.then do not post on my thread.
 
If you have nothing in the house andy just invite them in next time you see them out there. If they threaten to come back with a warrant just offer to give them a tour. It would probably get rid of them.
 
I LEARNED THE HARD WAY,NEVER OFFER NOTHING TO THE COPS.NOTHING.THATS WHAT GETS PEOPLE IN TROUBLE.they see the badge,hear the knock and get scared.scared will get you in jail my friend.no offense but this is not my first rodeo with the po po.thet are not welcome in my home.my home is for invited guests only.no warrant,no visit.
 
There's a difference between offering cooperation when you have something to hide and offering cooperation when you don't.
 
Both of you are right I know this first hand as well. If you are completly in the clear then don't worry about letting cops in. If you are in the least possible to get busted for something don't say a word to them and don't let them in unless a warrant. Its that simple.

It goes with almost anything and the law. If you are in the wrong never say a word until you get a lawyer period. Don't try to make up any excuse blah blah blah just get a lawyer and be done. If you have nothing to hide and are perfectly fine then thats the only time to speak to them to avoid an arrest.
 
Agreed manels1111. It's important to know your rights regardless. The only reason I would suggest dealing with them or even giving them a tour, is because it'll get them out of your hair. If they threaten to come back with a warrant and you say "Why? Want to come inside and poke around? Let's go...", they won't know what to say, they'll be completely taken off the offensive, and they'll probably just glare at you and leave.
 
andy52 said:
well my friends all is well on the home front.buddluv sure can read between the lines.i mean this info to do nothing but hopefully help just 1 person.hopefully all that order seeds.my checkered past consists of too much to talk about here.i have been busted before,but not for mj.it was drug related but thats my business.i have nothing to hide and welcome the leo's to visit.fk em all.they know now that i am not the average little snitching btch.this is what this is all about.lets play a game,you tell me 3 names,etc,etc.everybody knows that game.fk em again.i will go to my grave before being labled a sntch,btch,=punk.
for all that take something from this,good.for the doubters.then do not post on my thread.

Don't be a fool. The Feds have alot of time and money to watch you. Knock and talk! when the Feds knock on your door, they have taps, pictures, testimony. They also have a long memory. They started around here in 93. Didn't knock on doors till 96. They don't just want you. they want to follow a trail from you to everyone else. these are not the fun police.
 
thats why i have never,ever went along with anything a cop,dea or whatever in uniform has to say.they come to my door and i am rude as hell and make it a point that i do not like or trust the law.no respect for it either.i have had experiences of a life time to justify this resentment of any and all law enforcement.period.
 
NorCalHal said:
Obviosly, Andy can't really go into details specific enough for us here on a public forum. As per advice given him by his lawyer, Andy, do what he says man.

For those of you who can't read between the lines, here is my take on Andy's situation, from what he has said so far without being REAL specific.

Andy has alot of property. His order for the seeds exceeded $400, so that tells me it was at least over 50 seeds or so.
The BIG kicker is the fact that Andy eloquintly (did i spell that right?) stated he had a "checkered past". Bingo.
I understand Andy not wanting to go into further details of his "past". That is his business and that should be that. He posted that comment, imho, to give us a "clue" as to why they investigated him.

So, what it looks like to me is, they popped his order from the plain fact of the address it was sent to. We all know now that FEDLEO is onto the Doc.
They did a routain background check on the sender(andy), and his "checkered past" came up. A little more invetagating probably brought up his current address and the amount of land he has and location.
They sent out a "Customs" agent, which is GREAT for Andy. Obviously, they are not as sneaky as the DEA, which they could have turned the case over.
They are looking for an easy bust and he just fit the "profile".

Do I beleive Andy? Yes. Why lie? And the story he told, imho, makes sense if you look at it like a LEO. And folks, if you don't at least try to think like a LEO doing what we are doing, you are asking for trouble.
The timing of the "visit" from customs and when they informed him of his letter being caught makes sense also.

I think folks who don't have a criminal history who gets caught up in whats happening to Doc need not worry. For those who do, clean -up.

Thanks Andy for giving us a heads up.

i guess it makes sense to me now how or why. just all the combination of the factors did it. i bet they prolly just run simple background checks on all names that come thru either sendin money orders checks etc. or the names on the seed packages they nab up.
and for unsaid details i think it'd be wise for me not to ever try orderin any lol...
 
Puffin Afatty said:
:rolleyes: If you can believe anything you read in media, I see reports of busts of commercial grows, everyday, where the growers trash state/federal/private land growing their products :(

:rant: these folks that are growin and sellin are puttin US all on the spot, otherwise WE would all be under the radar :hubba:

collateral damage is to be expected :eek:

you think commercial growers has anything to get it planned to give any damages to public?? I am more than sure the commercial growers intend to not get caught in any way, at all. if some leaks has come to leos' lap, opps, that is what ask for.. but also give many thanks to MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!! and stupid leos!!!!!!!!!!!!! for "brainwashing" public s brains telling marijuana is criminal, and "dangerous drugie" get me? if I did got caught, I would be embarrassing even more I will be in newspaper, I do not want that..myself, everybody who are growing is trying to be SAFE!! except all to whoever says marijuana is stupid....
 
andy, I agree with NorCalHal

be safe and clean up, plan with backups somewhere, not your home but somewhere, use your good connections for now..
 
YES, I do think commercial growers PLAN to damage the public, ie stealing power, or growing on public [or other peoples] property ;)

:rant: Maybe I havent been clear enuf, In My Less Than Humble Opinion, ILLEGAL COMMERCIAL GROWERS are the enemy, even more so than all LEO put together
 
Puffin Afatty said:
YES, I do think commercial growers PLAN to damage the public, ie stealing power, or growing on public [or other peoples] property ;)

:rant: Maybe I havent been clear enuf, In My Less Than Humble Opinion, ILLEGAL COMMERCIAL GROWERS are the enemy, even more so than all LEO put together

they do put us all in an otherwise distasteful position, leo thinks we are all just in it for profit, which isnt the case alot of times, shoot, i think of it more than a hobby than anything else. Commercial growers do give guys like me a bad name, so yeah, i pretty much agree with this statement.
 
andy52 said:
I LEARNED THE HARD WAY,NEVER OFFER NOTHING TO THE COPS.NOTHING.THATS WHAT GETS PEOPLE IN TROUBLE.they see the badge,hear the knock and get scared.scared will get you in jail my friend.no offense but this is not my first rodeo with the po po.thet are not welcome in my home.my home is for invited guests only.no warrant,no visit.

Amen. Besides who knows, anyone can over look a seed or something trivial. Best not let a cop in and take that chance. Besides cops are lousy for the Fung Shui.
 
they park out front again Andy, call the locals on 'em. say theres a 'suspicious' vehicle in your area. say you think thier from the rip off crew,
and thier scopin' out the neighborhood for what they can come back, and steal tonight. flip a script on 'em.:D . then glass 'em from the distance.
file a formal complaint on 'em. say thier snappin' pics of your woman, and invading your privacy. tell the locals to do thier job.
i've never called the cops on no one, but the idea of calling the cops on thier own, well, i don't think i could pass on that one.:hubba: ...good luck brother. (another 5 weeks', we prolly won't have these worries'.)
 
I was wondering about something. Recently it was decided (I believe by the supreme court) that we have no Miranda rights until charges have been pressed against us. So, that being the case we supposedly don't have the right to remain silent until charges have been pressed. However, what about the fifth amendment, doesn't it apply? That being the case then we shouldn't need Miranda rights.

Regardless of whether or not it's legal to remain silent, remaining silent and then being penalized for it is better than getting busted for something bigger.
 

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