Anyone have a panic room?

[Fadeux]

I was thinking of hollowing out a couch in my bedroom and turning into a place to hide, should leo ever try to take down my operation. Just wondering if anyone has anything like this, or ever thought of something similar.

 

[smokybear]

Lol. That is hilarious. Sorry my friend. I'm not poking fun at you. It's just a funny thought. Leo busts down your door but you happen to be close to your "panic couch", so you jump into the couch. The police clear the house and don't find you. They find your grow. They find all your personal information laying all over the house. They find your bills with your name on it. Everything that proves that you grew the stuff. You're still laying in your couch hiding. They take all the evidence which could possibly take hours and hours while you're laying in the couch. Lol. Just a funny though. What if they sat down on the couch? Hahahaha. Great stuff. Take care and be safe.

 

[Fadeux]

Lol. That is hilarious. Sorry my friend. I'm not poking fun at you. It's just a funny thought. Leo busts down your door but you happen to be close to your "panic couch", so you jump into the couch. The police clear the house and don't find you. They find your grow. They find all your personal information laying all over the house. They find your bills with your name on it. Everything that proves that you grew the stuff. You're still laying in your couch hiding. They take all the evidence which could possibly take hours and hours while you're laying in the couch. Lol. Just a funny though. What if they sat down on the couch? Hahahaha. Great stuff. Take care and be safe.

Yeah, it's silly. I do have some ideas though... Take a few minutes and actually think about it.

The cops are knocking on your door. You have 450 plants growing. They have a warrent, and will be coming in soon, like it or not. What do you do? What do you do? (say the last one in a keanu reeves voice for full effect)

 

[smokybear]

If you have 450 plants growing, you're asking to get caught. Most of the people on here grow for personal consumption, not massive commercial sale. People that do that get caught. That's just it. Even with the panic room, they are going to get you eventually. They will have all your information. They will get you. Nobody escapes the long arm of the law forever my friend. Unless you have a fat swiss bank account and several different identities set up....and a private jet to fly you to a country that doesnt extradite. Just my thoughts. Take care and be safe.

 

[Fadeux]

If you have 450 plants growing, you're asking to get caught. Most of the people on here grow for personal consumption, not massive commercial sale. People that do that get caught. That's just it. Even with the panic room, they are going to get you eventually. They will have all your information. They will get you. Nobody escapes the long arm of the law forever my friend. Unless you have a fat swiss bank account and several different identities set up....and a private jet to fly you to a country that doesnt extradite. Just my thoughts. Take care and be safe.

Im just asking a hypothetical question. What would you do?

 

[Disco94]

Give up.

 

[smokybear]

Grab the closest bag of weed and start eating it. At that point, I would know that they won this time. If you do the crime, you have to be ready to do the time. Make your bed of nails and you must lay in it. Just my thoughts. Take care and be safe.

 

[Fadeux]

Do the crime, do the time? Don't quote me bumper stickers. Make fun of my couch idea all you want, how is your idea any better?

Oh, great Haiku btw...

 

[smokybear]

Lol. If I'm growing 450 plants and the DEA busts down my door, you can bet your bottom dollar that I'm going to give up. The last thing on my mind would be hiding in a "couch" and thinking that I'm going to get away. Very amusing but I just don't think it will work.

1. If LEO has a warrant to bust you, they aren't going to make it known that they are coming. Most likely, you will be sitting on the couch in your underwear watching cartoons....or whatever you watch and they are going to bust in screaming Police!! Search Warrant!!

2. You will not have time to hide in your "couch"
3. They are going to search the entire house VERY thoroughly for you and for drugs and any other drug-related stuff. They will most likely search the couch cushions.
4. They will have all of your information so it's just a matter of time before they get you.
5. I got that quote out of a newspaper, not a bumper sticker.
6. Anyone can break the law. It takes someone with real character to own up to his/her own misdeeds. I know it's illegal and I'm ready to do the time if I am caught. These are the risks I am willing to make.

I'm not making fun. It's just really funny. Not much more I can say about it. Lol. Take care and be safe.

 

[Fadeux]

Bah, did you see the jerks that made 6 million in the last two years running a dispensary in CA? Only after they made a rap video. If i were to make 1 million, I would be out of this country in a heartbeat. its not impossible. Who the hell makes 6 million bucks, and then makes a music video flipping off the city council?

You can act noble all you want "Dont do the crime if you can't do the time." But just accepting that seems silly to me. Why don't you turn yourself in then? You're going to the lengths you feel you need to, to avoid getting pinched. I am just asking people to take that one step further...

6. Anyone can break the law. It takes someone with real character to own up to his/her own misdeeds. I know it's illegal and I'm ready to do the time if I am caught. These are the risks I am willing to make.

So you're going to go to prison to prove you have character? Holy cow, who do you need to prove that to?

You don't honestly believe that. If that were the case, you wouldn't take any measures to hide your grow operation. You don't actually believe what you are doing is wrong! The same reason you slow down on the highway when you see a cop while speeding, and then speed up again after he passes. Not getting caught is just so much better. You keep telling me why I'm wrong, but you won't discuss what you could do to avoid getting caught.

 

[smokybear]

I would never turn myself in but if they have enough evidence for a search warrant and they bust down my door while I'm home, I'm had! I don't see nothing wrong with being as careful as possible to avoid the law. I definitely don't like jail. I'm not willing to go to prison to prove I have character but if they catch me red-handed, I will admit it and face the consequences. Cowards run away from problems. What I am doing is wrong, according to law. You're absolutely right, not getting caught is great and I'm not telling you that you are wrong in being extra cautious. I think you should direct it in another direction, that's all. I don't think your current idea will work. Just my thoughts. Interesting discussion, I might add! Take care and be safe.

 

[Fadeux]

I would never turn myself in but if they have enough evidence for a search warrant and they bust down my door while I'm home, I'm had! I don't see nothing wrong with being as careful as possible to avoid the law. I definitely don't like jail. I'm not willing to go to prison to prove I have character but if they catch me red-handed, I will admit it and face the consequences. Cowards run away from problems. What I am doing is wrong, according to law. You're absolutely right, not getting caught is great and I'm not telling you that you are wrong in being extra cautious. I think you should direct it in another direction, that's all. I don't think your current idea will work. Just my thoughts. Interesting discussion, I might add! Take care and be safe.

I understand, I just like busting your chops... When I read that article early about those guys who made 6 million in 2 years doing this, I couldn't help but think, "Why not me?"

People get busted stealing power, and making rap videos about how pimp they are. Seems to me one of the easiest things in the world to do would be "Not getting caught growing weed!" So I like to speculate to myself about all the possible scenarios, and how to deal with them. Thought I'd share one of those speculations tonight. No ones asking for legal advice here, so feel free to let your imagination open up.

 

[thc is good for me]

I would not want to go to jail for a crime that shouldnt even be a crime. if i wasnt growing med mj i would not grow at all or move to a state where i could grow med mj. Its like a highwire act your medical card is your safety net lots of people choose to go without a safety net(medMJCard) and get away but some slip and fall into a prison cell with a big black guy name BUBBA lol im justed baked and rambling dont take anything i say seriously

But i dont think you should go to jail for growing MJ in the first place

 

[Fadeux]

I would not want to go to jail for a crime that shouldnt even be a crime. if i wasnt growing med mj i would not grow at all or move to a state where i could grow med mj. Its like a highwire act your medical card is your safety net lots of people choose to go without a safety net(medMJCard) and get away but some slip and fall into a prison cell with a big black guy name BUBBA lol im justed baked and rambling dont take anything i say seriously

But i dont think you should go to jail for growing MJ in the first place

Why does Bubba have to be black? Of all the gay dudes I've met in my day, very, very, very few of them were black.

Either growing weed is RIGHT or it is WRONG. If you grow it, you come to terms with one of those two options. You cant legislate morality, it just doesn't work. "Safty Nets" have nothing to do with morality. They're just an excuse to redeem yourself to a society that you yourself don't consider moral.

Morals are TRUE or FALSE. There can be exceptions, but there is no grey area.

 

[godspeedsuckah]

I am pretty sure I remember you from RIU Fadeux. Weren't you always in the political section?

 

[Hick]

Either growing weed is RIGHT or it is WRONG. If you grow it, you come to terms with one of those two options. You cant legislate morality, it just doesn't work. "Safty Nets" have nothing to do with morality. They're just an excuse to redeem yourself to a society that you yourself don't consider moral.

Morals are TRUE or FALSE. There can be exceptions, but there is no grey area.

Hmmm.. then "which is it".. fad'..??
"Right".. and you're hiding in the couch, says to "me", that you truely don't believe it. Or you would stand up for "your beliefe", and contest the warrant/charges.

"Wrong"...and you're hiding in the couch, says to "me", that you are simply not willing to accept responsibility for "your actions".

I'm not in agreement with some of the draconian mj laws in this country, but neither am I in 'moral' agreement with those clowns rappin' 'bout their 6 mill' AND stealing electricity. IMO, most of the dispensaries are price gougeing the med users in the first place.
I mean come on, $500-$800p/oz!.. to often limited or fixed income individuals, in need of medication. Where is the morality there?

 

[Brouli]

i have panic room in house (looks similar to the one u see in that movie with bruce W. hostage or something.

thats were my security screens and servers are , i also got there grow tent

 

[Brouli]

P.S


"I mean come on, $500-$800p/oz!.. to often limited or fixed income individuals, in need of medication. Where is the morality there?"

Lovlly puted Mr. Hick

 

[SmokinMom]

I have a trap door under my house that leads to a tunnel. The end of that tunnel is about 4 miles south.

 

[Puffin Afatty]

I was thinking of hollowing out a couch in my bedroom and turning into a place to hide, should leo ever try to take down my operation. Just wondering if anyone has anything like this, or ever thought of something similar.

if you could avoid any corresponding evidence of your identity it would be a great idea. as long as you dont pay the rent or bills, leave no fingerprints or other DNA material, and are never seen coming or going, hiding out or escaping is a good thing, otherwise, you are caught before they get the warrant.

arresting cops would probably bring a dog, eh. no avoiding that critter's nose power. I saw something similar on COPS, a guy hid in hid-a-bed but LEO found him right away.

a guy I knew in college, had an improvised escape shoot in his house to get out in case of trouble. He put a kids slide next to his second story window, so he could jump out in a hurry. he tried it once too, missed the slide and fell about 12 feet to the ground. I guess that's why he only tried it once, eh. :rofl:

but really, hiding during a bust is probably not gonna work,but if you do evade 1st detection, it might give you a chance to Liar-up before turning yourself in. I kinda think that LEO could charge you with obstruction, if they knew you hid, but the 5th is supposed to protect you from incriminating yourself, eh. I hear it protects criminals from being required to tell the truth.

Some folks still have bomb shelters too, but you gotta surface eventually, and LEO never goes entirely away. How long can you hold your breath? :hubba:

Best case is to not get caught !!! Easy to say, not quite so easy to do, but just look around, it has been done before, it is being done now and I'd venture to say growers will continue to evade detection in the future. Good thing for me!!!