hello everyone my leaves got a yellow outline

[skullcandy]

a yellow outline , with some yellow spots in the center of a few leaves . i water them onece every 3-5 days depending on how quick the dirt drys. at the time i use plan water, for nutriet the bat poop in the foxfarms ocean forest is what i got .could it be that theres to much food for the plants in the soil? or what could i do to help prevent them from becoming more yellow? i am saddened i do not want my plants to die or to not produce any buds what can i do ?

 

[Rosebud]

Hi skullcandy,

Did you wet the fox farm really well before you planted in it?

You need to water the whole pot. Not the way it looks like you are watering. I would put them in the kitchen sink if they were mine and put the sprayer in that dirt to mix it up and let it all get wet. Then I would put a fan blowing across the plants. and check them after that. Don't feed for the first 4 weeks with fox farm ocean forest.
I think they will be ok. Let them dry out to the touch before watering again.

Green mojo to you.

 

[skullcandy]

Hi skullcandy,

Did you wet the fox farm really well before you planted in it?

You need to water the whole pot. Not the way it looks like you are watering. I would put them in the kitchen sink if they were mine and put the sprayer in that dirt to mix it up and let it all get wet. Then I would put a fan blowing across the plants. and check them after that. Don't feed for the first 4 weeks with fox farm ocean forest.
I think they will be ok. Let them dry out to the touch before watering again.

Green mojo to you.

Rosebud when i water i only water around the stem and about 2-3 inches from it i don't water around the edge of the pots since this area does not have any roots . from what i read i believe i am doing it wrong, what can i do to correct it ?

 

[Rosebud]

Re read my post and take them into the kitchen sink.... you can do it. If you don't have a sprayer then add water and use your hand or a spoon carefully and work the dirt till it is wet soil. You also could carefully bring the plants with roots supported out of the pot and set on a plate. Then wet the heck out of that soil, stir up the water in the pot with a spoon. then replant. Let the pot set so all the excess water runs out, put a saucer under them then do the fan....like I said above...you will be ok.

 

[skullcandy]

:holysheep: [your plant is beautiful] i will soak my soil and replant my plants . I also am thinking that my light might be causeing problems with my plant growth i have the seven band led 3x145 watt, not to sure if this is strong enough for my 3'x3' grow space. what do you think about the light?

 

[Roddy]

Good info, Rosie, good detail and explanation. :aok:

Skull, you really want the whole pot wet, near saturation, then allow it to dry fairly well (I do two things to check, stick finger in up to 2nd knuckle...if moist let alone OR I pic up the gal to feel her heaviness...you'll need to know the weight when wet and dry to better go this route). You want the soil fairly dry so oxygen can get into the soil and to the roots! Leaving the gals too wet too long means the roots will "drown". While the gal is small, less water will be used meaning less watering doen. When big, they can really suck up the water, especially in bud...I water every day on some of the smaller pots and every other day to third day on my 10 gallon pots.

How close to the plant is the light, Skull? I'm doubting the light is enough, but without any knowledge of the lumens she casts, hard to tell. I do know we were discussing how close a light can be to the plants in another thread, why I ask about yours.

 

[Hushpuppy]

Skull, you said that you water close to the plant because that is where the roots are. That is wrong information, the roots reach out as the plant grows. The roots in soil are constantly growing and reaching for nutrients and water, and in a very short time they will form a wall of roots around the outside edge of the pot. If you transplant it you will see the roots all around the outside of the dirtball.

Also, whenever you are working with natural feeding in soil, it is very important to get some soil microbes like mychorrizae or a product called ZHO which has all kinds of beneficial microbes in it. These are an absolute must for natural soil growing(also called organic) because the nutrients in the soil are not readily available to the plants' roots. The microbes do a process to the material in the soil called chelation which makes the nutrients available to the plants. By watering your soil really good each time, you are not only giving the plants water, you are making it easier for the microbes to move through the soil and do the work of feeding the plants for you. Also, having plenty of microbes in the soil will help to maintain the PH where it needs to be.

Do you know the PH of your water that you put in your plants? that is critical as you want the water to be between 6.5 and 6.9 for this type of growing.

 

[skullcandy]

Good info, Rosie, good detail and explanation. :aok:

Skull, you really want the whole pot wet, near saturation, then allow it to dry fairly well (I do two things to check, stick finger in up to 2nd knuckle...if moist let alone OR I pic up the gal to feel her heaviness...you'll need to know the weight when wet and dry to better go this route). You want the soil fairly dry so oxygen can get into the soil and to the roots! Leaving the gals too wet too long means the roots will "drown". While the gal is small, less water will be used meaning less watering doen. When big, they can really suck up the water, especially in bud...I water every day on some of the smaller pots and every other day to third day on my 10 gallon pots.

How close to the plant is the light, Skull? I'm doubting the light is enough, but without any knowledge of the lumens she casts, hard to tell. I do know we were discussing how close a light can be to the plants in another thread, why I ask about yours.

Roddy my light hangs at 5' from the floor, which puts the plants beteen 3-4 feet all my plants are different sizes. as for lumes ikd how to find out what they are, the light i got it a seven band led the output says 3x135x7 again i have no idear what that means aside from knowing that it adds up to 405 watts at least thats what i think. i am not sure .

 

[skullcandy]

Skull, you said that you water close to the plant because that is where the roots are. That is wrong information, the roots reach out as the plant grows. The roots in soil are constantly growing and reaching for nutrients and water, and in a very short time they will form a wall of roots around the outside edge of the pot. If you transplant it you will see the roots all around the outside of the dirtball.

Also, whenever you are working with natural feeding in soil, it is very important to get some soil microbes like mychorrizae or a product called ZHO which has all kinds of beneficial microbes in it. These are an absolute must for natural soil growing(also called organic) because the nutrients in the soil are not readily available to the plants' roots. The microbes do a process to the material in the soil called chelation which makes the nutrients available to the plants. By watering your soil really good each time, you are not only giving the plants water, you are making it easier for the microbes to move through the soil and do the work of feeding the plants for you. Also, having plenty of microbes in the soil will help to maintain the PH where it needs to be.

Do you know the PH of your water that you put in your plants? that is critical as you want the water to be between 6.5 and 6.9 for this type of growing.

i have no ZHO microbs in my soil however i will begin to look for some at my local nursery, as for the water i do not have a tool to messure the PH level in the water. so i use tap water.

 

[sunakard2000]

one thing i can say for sure is its your soil NOT the lights... although you do need to drop those lights down way way lower... with an aircooled HPS you need to keep it at least 18 inchs away to prevent burn... with the LED UFO's which i use... 135watt per UFO, 45 LED chips per light... ~10,000 K lums per UFO as well..., since the UFO's have a little over a 10th of the lums of an HPS AND since they put out almost 0 heat, you need to drop those bad boys to about an inch or 2 inches from the top of your plants... if you keep the LED UFOs low and close to the top of the plants it will also promote tighter nodes, so shorter, and more bushy plants, keeping the lights as far away as you are will promote stretching which you dont want... also like to note that my LED UFOs are probably different then what your rolling with but im sure it is pretty close to mine, either way they need to be NO more then 6 inches away form the canopy of the plant otherwise the light energy will weaken as it travels across the larger distances, closer to the plant = more light energy actually getting to the plant... remember energy disapates over distance, wether its light energy or electricty... large distances of energy travel = weaker energy at the end of its travel...

imo you need to lower your lights a tad, less then 6 inches from canopy, and like everyone else has said wet the soil... and as hushpuppy said about the roots, when i x-planted from my small pots into the 6.5gal pots, which was about 2 week after i popped the sprouts into the soil, and in just 2 short weeks the plant already had roots all over the edges of the 2gal pot...

well good luck and make sure you keep a good mental note or journal entry about what you did and how it worked out days later... better to have reference material for the next time so you can tune your grow in to the T...

best of luck my friend

 

[Hushpuppy]

At this point it is critical that you know the PH of your water. If your water is above 7.0 or below 6.5 it can be causing your problems or will cause more in the future. When you go to the hydro/grow store get one of the yellow milwaukee PH pens. they should be about $30. Use it to check your water and if it is outside the parameters I gave then you will need to go back and get some PH adjuster to either raise or lower the PH. I try to stay right close to 6.8 for my soil plants. If they don't have any of the ZHO then ask them about microbe mixes. They should have several kinds that will help you in soil.