Forced to make a choice!!! pain pills or MJ

[FUM]

After three (3) years of being able to use both pain meds and Marijuana my Dr. has changed his mind. I must choose. Due to having chronic pain all over my body I'm forced to give up my Marijuana and keep my pain Rx's. Contraey to the law Marijuana IS NOT A NARCOTIC and won't touch my pain. Sure it helps the pain Rx work, but not by it's self. Duly note that I am a legal grower/patint undre OMMP. I'm in shock and awa #@&%$*!!! What's this world commong to???
Is there any :icon_smile: legal case law(s) that anyone knows of that fights this issue(s)??? HELP!!!!! Mabe "we" may start a class action/civil case.

 

[ston-loc]

sucks man! I too have chronic pain from a "workers comp permanent disabitlity" injury. I actually fell off the mj wagon a while back because I wanted to take less pills. I got to the bad point of really being addicted. Lost a ton of weight, couldn't eat, etc. Started smoking again, the pill intake cut WAY back, was able to eat again, and was able to put back some of the weight I lost. Crappy situation. I do still take pills on extremely painful days, but getting my mmj slip re signed has definately improved the quality of life. If you cant have both I'd think about how easy it would be to get the one you chose to "give up" with out a the dr. And the risk of growing without mmj if you chose that. That's a tough one, hoping the best for ya.

 

[HemperFi]

Get a different doctor.

 

[Sol]

I hear ya . Same here too. I leave the Rx alone myself, although hafta take methadone to counteract pain med withdraw. It seems you cant win, either pain and drugfree or mild pain relief and an addiction(possibly,..depending).
The problem as i see it isnt anything to do with the narcotic belief with MJ, its ALL about control. I think legal Mj would finally cause ppl to stop and think' what the hell is going on here?' and THEY don't want that. Nope, keep them watchin t.v. ,going to concerts and feed them lies all day and they will believe anything we tell them. Control ,that's it.

 

[Rosebud]

Get your last three visit records and go to a clinic. That is crazy. Does pot allow you to use less of the rx? Don't take that. It will cost you some money but so will going to jail I guess.

 

[ston-loc]

Yeah, thinking of it, regular dr's don't prescribe. I get my Rx's from the dr, and go to the "other" dr with records for a 12 month script. That's Cali though. Not sure how it works in OR.

 

[Iron Emmett]

One of my Buddies who is really strapped for cash and cant work, trades his pain meds for pot, the pot helps more than the pills.

 

[hero4u2b]

I would look for a Pain management Doctor, Many Doctors who specilize in treating cronic. intractable pain understand more than a GP ( if thats who's perscribing you MJ). Personally I was a pain managment patient for many years and finally got off the methadone. dilaudid ect ect although if I had real PAIN again I def choose the opiods. Sounds like your Doctor is looking at you like an addict and abusing the system. I was bed ridden once in the hospital and I saw the med cart get pushed in my door one day.. They already had me weaned down from MS to oral percocet and I saw a few bottles of beer on the med cart.. Well **** I started asking the nurse and she called my Doctor and he agreed to perscribe me 2 beers a day if I got off the percocets. lol I chose the beer.. I had been in traction for 3 months and just wanted out of that damn hospital. Good luck and take care. Hero

 

[Mutt]

Too bad we can't grow poppies, herb and shrooms.
There is yet still be found a drug that works as well for migraines and cluster headaches as shrooms dosed in a small amount that does not induce tripping, or raw opium for pain, or I can go on.
Fact of the matter is if we respect mom nature and work within moderation, we don't need synthetics to handle our basic pains.
I don't care most of those "pain killers" have way too much Acetaminophen that it is actually very harmful to your body. More so then the actual narcotic prime ingredient. Which is a synthetic version of something that grows naturally. Go figure....synthesize something mom nature produces makes whole ton of sense. Seems to me growing is a heck of a lot cheaper then synthesizing.
Give me aloe from my window shelf over burn cream anyday

 

[Sol]

Too bad we can't grow poppies, herb and shrooms.
There is yet still be found a drug that works as well for migraines and cluster headaches as shrooms dosed in a small amount that does not induce tripping, or raw opium for pain, or I can go on.
Fact of the matter is if we respect mom nature and work within moderation, we don't need synthetics to handle our basic pains.
I don't care most of those "pain killers" have way too much Acetaminophen that it is actually very harmful to your body. More so then the actual narcotic prime ingredient. Which is a synthetic version of something that grows naturally. Go figure....synthesize something mom nature produces makes whole ton of sense. Seems to me growing is a heck of a lot cheaper then synthesizing.
Give me aloe from my window shelf over burn cream anyday

The best advice/viewpoint i've heard in o LONG time. Bravo

 

[FUM]

You would't belive all the aloe in my house.lol.One of the best plants to have in your home4sure. Check this out. Not only am I a legal OMMP grower, I'm a church under PR NTR KMT, a temple of the divine of ancient Egypt. I'm a sincere believer in cannabis religion. So now we're talking about my constitutional rights to use MJ and have a standard of treatment that I'v had for years. Poof, I just did not change over night, "they" did. And I truly need my pain meds to get out of bed in the morrin". I'm not taking this lying down.(unless 'they" win). If I have to file "class action" civil case and medical complaints so be it. The fight's on baby. I may have found 1 (one) other person in the same boat. I need one more person to have a "CLASS". It takes 3 (three) or more ppl to make a "class'. Any positive help or advise would be welcome. Green blessings to you all.

 

[7greeneyes]

I've lived my 35+ yrs in intractable pain, and after they took my dilaudid away, a very close relative of mine introduced me to a strong strain of skunk, which I used to take the burden of no pain management from me. Opiods always constipated me and didn't seem to take the pain away more then make me not care that I was in pain. I thank the Lord everyday for his medicine that we as humans have ignorantly turned on and have made an object of condemnation.

Here's to you and yours FUM, and I would like to apologize for the snide PM, seems like we're more alike then first thought.

Much Peace n' Health,

7greeneyes

 

[FUM]

Thanks greeneyes, no shame no blame. It's all good. But this is no joke. These Dr.s are stressing me out. I'm about to check out. Can't talk any sence to these quacks. I just don't no *** to do anymore.

 

[hero4u2b]

Some people absolutley HAVE to be on opiod medication. They would kill themselfs otherwise. I understand it.. Also.. Being on opiods for more than 2 or 3 weeks robs your natural endorphins from releasing chemicals in your brain that we automaticlly produce to manage pain within our bodys.. I was told once by a nuerologist that I would have to be on pain meds. for life. I beleived him and methadone was my only sensible choice. You dont build a tolerance to it and it stays in your body for 24 hours, ( terrible detox btw) MONTHS... anyways in a last ditch effort to not be misrable anymore and not want to take myself out.. I went into treatment one last time... This was in January of 2002. After being detoxed with methadone and after being sick for weeks in a hospital room the nurse's there wanted me to start to attend meetings. One day. they stole my cain and I had to hop down the corridors of the hospital. THEN the *******s moved my room upstairs and I had to use stairs. Well it was a few months and I cannot tell you exactly what happend but I was walking normally. no cain and more important NO PAIN.. I still have some pain from time to time but as long as I move around. ride a bike once in a while do some limited exercise. I have no pain. It will be 10 years this January and I still worry about when I am older if I will have to go back on them but for now.. I am opiod free.. I have a life, a decent life.. dont want to kill myself on a regular basis, have clean clothes. food.. friends . a valid drivers license and the list goes on. I know some of these things seem trivial to some but for me , its a big change and I have alot of grattitude for getting off of those pain management /methadone clinics, I hope you find the answer. Hero

 

[Rosebud]

:goodposting:

 

[FUM]

thanks Hero. If I was that younger man that may work. But lets just say that I'm over 60. I'v been a logger, fisherman, house mover,etc, and labored all my life using my body. my old body is racked with pain and opiod's are the only thing that work for me. It really sucks that i must relay on Dr.s but they have the guns this week.

 

[hero4u2b]

I understand and wish u the best. Hero

 

[Ruffy]

good luck bro

 

[SKAGITMAGIC]

thanks Hero. If I was that younger man that may work. But lets just say that I'm over 60. I'v been a logger, fisherman, house mover,etc, and labored all my life using my body. my old body is racked with pain and opiod's are the only thing that work for me. It really sucks that i must relay on Dr.s but they have the guns this week.

i'm kinda in the same boat you are, over 60 and just used myself up,It seems I;ve worked for every Gypo in the NW, I slapped babbit, chased or pulled rigging on either a hi-lead tower or a track loader for alot of years, a engineer dropped the rigging on me in 81 and I was 3 years in bed, not to mention broke a leg and bruised and strained everything imaginable workin in the woods,I've also fished, the keeping your balance in a rocking boat is so tough on a already hurting back, I'm where hero's at even with the smoke, and a methadone oxy cocktail i hurt, For some crazy reason, when i peddle my bike, it relieves my pain, and just not my back. It seems to help the mental stress too, almost like i'm a kid again!!! LOL Good luck to you

 

[hero4u2b]

When I was on Methadone Maintenance or even under the care of some pain management Doctor I was a slave to narcotics. I couldnt really travel. All my clothes had burn wholes in them.. even my boxers .due to falling alseep with lit ciggerettes. My home had carpets with burn wholes everywhere, Half of my awakeing hours were in a constant nod of being in and out of conciousness. I was COLD all the time except when outside in the Florida sun. I always had some sort of court case going on.. Friends that would rob me and or anyone else that was available with money and or drugs. I remember having to have benozos to kick my methadone in a bit.. I still speak with a partner in crime who actually was a dear friend that lives on the other coast of florida from me every week or 2.. He falls asleep during our conversations ect. I am so glad I dont have to live like that anymore.. Do you know I actually used to fall asleep.. while at red lights while driving home from the clinic? crazy.. Thank God for the little things in life like getting off of pain managment and methadone maintenance.. Hero