ok thanks guys and gals...........Marjane uses them to pull down the fan leaves...with the idea....that the buds have more room and will grow bigger.....could be urban legend?.......I was just curious.......she did say she started to do this at 30 days....they can be used for low stress training as well....My 10 plants are still growing, a friends coming over to see if I can figure out how to post a pic or two..I'm waitting for my good lights to get here in about one more week...florecent is all I have for now....They have recieved small amounts of MG fertilizer...sugar...water...and just bought some thrive....watered them last night.....wont water again till new lights get here in about a week....I might not do anything as far as supercropping......but might have to train them to grow a certain direction later on......It looks like 3 unknown sativas....1 fourway.....3 purple powers.....and 3 unknown indicas or indica sative mix....they are leaning more towards indica shape...hope they are all females....or atleast 5 of these plants.....of all these I would like the fourway to be a female.....five fourway seeds did not germinate...I saved 4 seeds for later....Also I started a bottle of yeast and sugar...they will like that.....my oldest plants are 30 days old some 21 and some 14....took awhile to get 10 plants going....well this is getting to be a journal....im able to also keep temps around 78 with fan and heater....I'll keep listening to anymore feedback, but i believe my clothes pin question has been answered ...thanks everyone...u 2 Maryjane...