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Thank you, I do all that and love the control my lights give me. My hps were too hot to do anything with. I also train accordingly, just was really curious if you noticed more stretch. Once I have enough electricity to leave my lights on 24 hours, imma try it with a sudden drop to 12.

think about building your own. When you're ready maybe we could help you find good deals. Hlg and digikey both, I highly recommend. The people are great and they usually have a discount code.

Right, I've done it. My question is, you know the first 3 weeks of flowering, the stretch that happens? That stretch, do you think it's more because of the drastic change from 24 hours of light to a direct 12 hours, versus the way I do it, slowly lowering from 24 down to 22 then down a half...

I thought it had more to do with the roots' processes that happen when the plant isn't photosynthisizing. Gonna read your article though, thanks!

Do you think that creates more of a stretch? I have run 24 lights on in veg also, but I transition down. I'm wondering about the stretch if I didn't. Also, I definitely will have to try your way and see what more dark does. I have used 11/13 before but didn't notice a difference.

Honestly I thought that was the only way to make gravy. You put your flour in the pan with the butter first thing, brown it up, but not really brown, lol

Depending on your genetics, but I get what you're saying too. Alcohol kills my family but liver cirrhosis runs in my genes. It also doesn't mix well with diabetes and other medical conditions. Hey, Hopper, how is your shoulder doing?

90cri, I thanked you for the reminder in another thread. I forgot that's what did it. Thanks again!

That's what our COBs are, thanks for the reminder!

Thank you, I sure missed all you all too! Glad to be back.

Where's mine, now you've made the rest of us jealous! Lol

ours even produce a bit in the dark red spectrum which I really like.

He's not, he's pointed out a few good seed banks, I for one am really appreciative of the info. Although I have a lot of seeds, I'm always wanting to see what's new and who's got what going. Thank you, @RonnieB , I appreciate you sharing!

But I'm here and I'll grow with ya! And I'm nicer, lol

I've only grown 2 autos, I think. One produced a whopping 18 grams of the best blueberry smoke I've ever had (which isn't all the mush really, lol) and the other was a huge monstrosity that fell over in my 5 gallon pot, lol. It was carmelicious or something like that. It was good smoke too...

Or build your own. We did and saved money doing it. We love our COBs. Anyone wanting to build your own, it's worth looking into.

Wow, I hope you didn't go down the opiate addiction road first? I have back issues, but never broke it. Do you use canna oil or tinctures, or only smoke?

Hey, I really love it! We do hope NM becomes legal recreationally, with all the money we're saving on electricity, we might be able to start our own, we'll see. A girl can dream, right?

Hey, be nice to my friend! Lol Sharon, welcome! Look around, chime in, I'd like some female blood in here with me!

That's how I learned also, on a forum. It's so helpful having knowledgeable people as friends and at your fingertips. Hi, @Sully508 !